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Old 10-12-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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DON'T FALL FOR THE DISTRACTION. Trump is not doing a damn thing, but playing you by claiming this.
what?! and miss out on an opportunity to shriek 'racism!!!'?
not on your life!

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This racial obsession with the inherent inferiority of poor brown people is guiding all of is relief efforts.
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He's promising to make black and brown (and Spanish-speaking) people righteously suffer for their supposed laziness.
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The man wouldn’t rent an apartment to Puerto Ricans. I think we know where he stands.
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This is what institutionalized racism looks like.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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The way it works is:

If New Jersey - politicize recovery efforts
If Puerto Rico - politicize recovery efforts
If Texas - definitely don't politicize recovery efforts
If Florida - definitely don't politicize recovery efforts

Maybe Ted Cruz can explain to Puerto Rico that since there are no votes to be gained, they don't matter.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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All the Christians love him and treat him as almost a messiah, but that's mostly because he promised them a white heterosexual Christian male dominated society. Trump has been the final straw that has pushed me to atheism.
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Please don't let him do that.
Heh, I am an atheist and I agree. You should convert to atheism because you have realized the supernatural religious claims are ludicrous and faith based reasoning is a failed epistemology, the hypocrisy of religious people should just be one very minor factor among many others.

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Old 10-12-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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We've heard time and again that Puerto Ricans are conservatives so they probably support Trump in ending aid to Puerto Rico, right?
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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Trump threatens to pull FEMA from Puerto Rico - ABC15 Arizona

Everyday you think this monster can't get any worse, and yet he does something even more vile. Maybe Trump actually is the anti-Christ.
I've heard that someone from PR had the nerve to criticized Trump. He should let them fend for themselves if they can't muster up enough gratitude. We should be seeing a lot more groveling before Trump allows those ingrates the supplies they need for for survival.

Who the hell do they think they are, Americans?!?!
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Don't think this has anything to do with racism. The mayor of San Juan criticized him and Trump always attempts to crush anyone who questions his greatness. If it takes denying Puerto Ricans full restoration of their infrastructure the President will go forward with mass punishment to salve his bruised ego.
You may be right. Either way, his need to punch down is disgusting.
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Are we supposed to pay for the complete costs of rebuilding? Seems like FEMA is there just to get them back on their feet so they can take care of themselves.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Are we supposed to pay for the complete costs of rebuilding? Seems like FEMA is there just to get them back on their feet so they can take care of themselves.
In exactly what way do you consider them back on their feet, or even close to it?
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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In exactly what way do you consider them back on their feet, or even close to it?
Do you think it's FEMA's job to rebuild their electric grid ?
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I have seen where President Trump has stated that PR had 'major problems' with their infrastructure prior to the storm, which assertion you now repeat.


Can you cite some examples of how it was in PR before the storm?


I will be helpful in stating that 'infrastructure' refers to "the fundamental facilities and systems serving a country, city, or area, as transportation and communication systems, power plants, and schools."


Infrastructure | Define Infrastructure at Dictionary.com




For instance, it is my understanding that PRIOR to the storm 100 percent of the citizens enjoyed electrical power, safe drinking water, and cell phone service. PR had, prior to the storm, a network of roads and bridges that one could travel upon. You had functioning schools, hospitals, and government. You had ports that were open for ships, both cargo and passenger. You had a functioning airport.


Anyway, since Mr. Trump is not here to answer my question, perhaps you would inform me of the state of the infrastructure in PR prior to the storm.
The power grid already had major problems. The power company had filed for bankruptcy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a936522e4ba5

https://www.wired.com/story/after-hu...lete-overhaul/

"Even before this most recent storm, Puerto Rico’s energy infrastructure was precarious. 'It was already unsustainable; it was a terrible mess,' says Judith Enck, the former EPA administrator for Region 2, which includes Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. 'Even if you had a modest wind storm, people would typically lose power for days at a time.'

'It’s absolutely imperative that FEMA not fund rebuilding an inadequate system.'
Enck identifies dual culprits: power plants that required fossil fuels, and 'rickety old transmissions.' Puerto Rico’s existing energy infrastructure relied primarily on oil or coal. And despite unreliable and unsustainable power sources, she adds, residents were paying some of the highest utility rates in the country."

Without power, rebuilding the rest of the infrastructure is problematic.

For example, the sewage system uses pumps that rely on power.

Puerto Rico's government itself had already filed for a type of bankruptcy relief.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/b...rico-debt.html

The sad fact is that Puerto Rico is too poor to recover on its own, and FEMA is not designed to fix the level of devastation the island faces.
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