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Old 10-12-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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And you would not be able to prove that one way or another because the hard copy won't be available to you.
The article SAYS hard copies will still be available in the National Archives. If you don't trust the digital ones you can still look at the hard copies yourself.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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No worries -- Julian Assange has copies.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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OK, let's make this simple:

Example 1-Obama has a box of letters. He throws out the ones proving he is a secret Kenyan Muslim. He then takes the letters down to the archive and drops them off. People review the remaining letters.

Example 2-Obama has a box of letters. He throws out the ones proving he is a secret Kenyan Muslim. He then takes the letters down to the scanner and puts them online at the archive. People review the remaining letters.

Get it now?.
You have ZERO proof that's what will actually transpire. You don't know what you don't know. And if he takes that box of letters and says "sorry you can't see that" then you will never know that. And that's the point. That's why he's doing it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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The article SAYS hard copies will still be available in the National Archives. If you don't trust the digital ones you can still look at the hard copies yourself.
That's not what it says. It says they will be stored under the supervision of the National Archives. Which means in a cave or warehouse somewhere. Good luck trying to get to that cave or warehouse.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Are you too intellectually dishonest to understand that such an outcome can be avoided by making the entire archive of hard-copies available to the public? It's almost as if you don't actually understand how easily a digital archive can be manipulated.
Are you too intellectually lazy to understand that the entire archive of hard copies will STILL be available to the public in the National Archives?

A physical archive can be just as easily manipulated as a digital one, if someone so desired to do so. Your trust in physical over digital copies is completely misplaced.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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You don't understand. An archive is exactly that. You go and you dig and you find and you read. To this day historians and random people are finding amazing things in the National Archive - for example - that are long forgotten or hardly anyone ever knew existed. A digital library is not an archive, it is a library of documents that someone thought you should have access to. They pick and choose and scan what they want made available while skipping past the documents they don't want you to see. The ability to obscure the truth is real.
And if there were paper copies it wouldn't be possible to just not put the ones he didn't want people to see in the archives?
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Are you really as disingenuous and gullible as your portray online? Seriously. This is the stupidest defense i've seen yet. Apparently you don't realize that this article is nothing more than spin propogated by the pro-Obama elite in academia? The FACT of the matter is that a digital archive is one where someone decides what to scan and what not to scan. That means you only get to see what they want you to see.
And you really don't think a physical archive could be manipulated? Really? Who is being disingenuous here?????? WOW...

I actually have to explain it to you though, don't I...shaking my head...

Someone can be selective on what they display to the public in either scenario. There is LITERALLY no difference. If you don't realize that, I don't know what else to tell you. You are just...naive.



There is no reason to suspect that there is foul play happening here (unless you have some evidence you'd like to share?). If there are holes in the documents, people will certainly try to find them - and much more quickly than if the holes existed in hard copies, because digital files are FAR, FAR more searchable, accessible, and parse-able. The digital archive will be freely accessible to anyone that wants to see them, not just those that make the journey to the library. That is a good thing.


And by the way, the physical documents won't be destroyed. They will still be housed elsewhere. If someone wants them, they will be able to get them from the National Archives (assuming they are not classified).

Please, continue on with your garbage conspiracy theory, though.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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That's not what it says. It says they will be stored under the supervision of the National Archives. Which means in a cave or warehouse somewhere. Good luck trying to get to that cave or warehouse.
I have actually gone to, and used, a National Archives office myself, in Seattle, Washington. It is located here. It is not a big deal to use it, either.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Are you too intellectually lazy to understand that the entire archive of hard copies will STILL be available to the public in the National Archives?

A physical archive can be just as easily manipulated as a digital one, if someone so desired to do so. Your trust in physical over digital copies is completely misplaced.
Categorically false and I challenge you to cite the direct source to substantiate such a claim.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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You don't understand. An archive is exactly that. You go and you dig and you find and you read. To this day historians and random people are finding amazing things in the National Archive - for example - that are long forgotten or hardly anyone ever knew existed. A digital library is not an archive, it is a library of documents that someone thought you should have access to. They pick and choose and scan what they want made available while skipping past the documents they don't want you to see. The ability to obscure the truth is real.
So is pulling out paper documents you do not want people to see.

An archive is an archive, electronic or paper. The major difference being, with paper it could take years to find some obscure reference or to stumble across something 'amazing". With electronic scanning, you can search the entire archive in seconds for anything you care to look up.

And just for clarification an archive is a collection of historical documents or records. It does not have to be paper.

The antiobamaites are here in force today, looking for anything they can find or fake.
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