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Old 10-31-2017, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Yes, I do. Owing money and paying interest on it is always a loss. Some people net that loss against investment gains, but young college grads aren't usually in the position to do so. Especially in Sweden where they earn lower incomes.
Uh no...as you just demonstrated you do not understand. Sad aa you are so opinionated.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:24 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Uh no...as you just demonstrated you do not understand. Sad aa you are so opinionated.
Hmmm... Let's see... Paying interest on a loan vs. Paying no interest because one doesn't have a loan. Which one costs more?
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Hmmm... Let's see... Paying interest on a loan vs. Paying no interest because one doesn't have a loan. Which one costs more?
Follow me if you can. If you borrow $30,000 at 2.3% and invest it at 5.3% what is it costing you?

Tell all and show your work.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Follow me if you can. If you borrow $30,000 at 2.3% and invest it at 5.3% what is it costing you?
Young college graduates paying off student loans aren't investing money, especially in Sweden where they earn less.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:44 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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Nope, stipend, $800.00 a month, like that of a VISTA. People who are working for the country, should actually be, working for the country. And yes, that includes all of them, the President too. They should have made their money and not need compensation in representation of America's interest.

Let them work for that almighty dollar on their own time. We need to find dedicated people, not opportunist. That'll separate the men, from the boys ... so - to - speak.

(i'm not back to this thread. just saw your post and i couldn't help myself, but way in)
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You aren't going to get anybody qualified paying only $800/month. Fast food workers generally make more than that; so that would run government right into the ground
Those who are work for the (not a freudian) government who are voted into office ... those who voted people in, should review the person's resume better ...
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umm yeah, sure firefighters and police officers will work for $800 you betcha
Last I checked they make roughly $3500.00 a year, many take on extra gigs ... they were not the ones (on federal payroll) and now that you mention it, they could use a hefty pay raise.

I volunteered as a VISTA in 2008 and I've thought, that our state representatives and federal government personnel would be suited for that pay rate, ever since, if they hold a placement by vote to office. It should go with the territory of being 'in service to America' and they should be there 'dedicated' to America's best interest, not the (people's) paycheck.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Young college graduates paying off student loans aren't investing money, especially in Sweden where they earn less.
They don't have any student loans in our sense. They may well have auxiliary expenses.. but not student loans.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They don't have any student loans in our sense.
They owe money for student loans, and they're paying interest on it.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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Where is the money coming from to pay for the tuition? I doubt any of the college staff would work and teach for free.
Lol. Did I say they work for free? Obviously the money comes from taxes.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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Lol. Did I say they work for free? Obviously the money comes from taxes.
So other people’s money confiscated by the government you elected.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:57 PM
 
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I have to argue that how to educate your children is YOUR responsibility, not the taxpayers.

If it has to be the taxpayers responsibility, the children must meet certain minimum standards including but not limited to not committing any crimes and not becoming a welfare recipients.
Lol, no need to worry about my children. I was replying to misleading post that compared apples and oranges. First statement was that VAT is used for HC, which it is not. Second was comparing rates without saying what you get in return.
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