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Old 10-15-2017, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I tend to agree - Religious Fanatics have always existed across all Religions and Sects.
On the other hand - can anyone point to a "christian" who has enslaved over 1,000 girls (not women, but girls) into sexual slavery? I ceased being astounded at those that make excuses for this type of behavior a long time ago.
You will find that in the bible.....
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:23 PM
 
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Actually it would.

Islam allows rape of your wives, slaves, and of infidel women, so it would solve the problem by making the rape all right.

I am not being flippiant here. I think this is problably what he means.

And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50).

Successful indeed are the believers, who are humble in their prayers and who keep aloof from what is vain and who are givers of poor-rate and who guard their private parts, except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blamable.

Qur'an23:1-6

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): O Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371

The Quran in Sura (Chapter) 2:223 says: Your women are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like . . .
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:10 PM
 
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That's his belief, to which he is entitled. I disagree.
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:25 AM
 
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And from a religion that promises suicide bombers 72 virgins in the afterlife
As the military says, let’s get these guys laid.
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:39 AM
 
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Not sure what difference this makes to the original issue. Is it OK for a paper to publish a minority opinion or isn't it?
The paper is free to push religious propaganda and push an islamic agenda in order to survive financially, yes. Its insulting to the millions of women enslaved by that religion though.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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I wonder if the Independent has at any time in recent history been similarly used to proselytize for any other religious faith?

With Muslims being such a small (for now) portion of most western societies, the amount of time, money and energy we spend thinking, talking, debating and fighting Islam is ridiculous. Especially in England. It's like they have a stable of bearded pajama-men and hijabis on call for every panel where we have to be subjected to Islamsplaining on everything from rape-gangs to terror plots.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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I wonder if the Independent has at any time in recent history been similarly used to proselytize for any other religious faith?

With Muslims being such a small (for now) portion of most western societies, the amount of time, money and energy we spend thinking, talking, debating and fighting Islam is ridiculous. Especially in England. It's like they have a stable of bearded pajama-men and hijabis on call for every panel where we have to be subjected to Islamsplaining on everything from rape-gangs to terror plots.
A tremendous effort is being made to sell the idea that Islam is a force for good, and the British liberal establishment media is glad to help. Here's a nice little propaganda piece I just saw on the BBC's World News America:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9UlL3bxyUU
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:37 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Shrug. And I'm sure that somewhere in this country there's at least one christian claiming that obeying the teachings of the bible would prevent sexual abuse.
were they on NPR too?
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Oh, please. The biggest piece of BS I have read in a while. Muhammad married a 6 year old (and his most ardent followers claims he didn't bone her until she was 9 . . . as if that is much better ). Islam treats women as second class citizens. You have Islamic "scholars" who claim that marital rape cannot exist in Islam: Islamic scholar: Wife cannot deny husband sex 'even when riding on a camel' - International - Jerusalem Post

What a joke.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:35 AM
 
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So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.
Who knew Muhammad was a Calvinist?

Anyways, joke of an article. The left really effed up allying with Islam.
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