The Me Too chllenge in Facebook (compared, prison, against, family)

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by LauraC

It should also add: and how many of you who answered "yes" and didn't report it when it happened, lecture/preach to others about being a strong woman?

You should post it on your Facebook feed. Let us know the replies you receive.

[RedZin]

Originally Posted by FluidFreedom

Wow. I honestly don’t even know what to say to this post. So I will just repeat what I said previously... you are wrong. Rape is a violent act period.

I just said it was.

I just said "violent act" and the textbook definition of "violence" aren't always in agreement.

You are saying all this to me like I've never experienced any of it and am not disgusted by it. I have and I am.

I'm not going to keep arguing semantics.

I'm deeply offended that people keep trying to minimize molestation because rape is so much worse.

I can tell you, from personal experience, that that is simply not always the case.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

One is words (perception) and one is a physical act (clear violation of the non-aggression principle).

I know we live in a society where people believe words are violent (which makes it ok to punch a "Nazi") but anything can be construed as "harassment" whereas (again) assault is a physical act.

Very trite description of a serious issue.

A boss asking you for fellatio immediately following up with a comment about a promotion, raise or even keeping your current position isn't "words" or "perception." Its sexual harassment and its serious.

[FluidFreedom]

Originally Posted by RedZin

I just said it was.

I just said "violent act" and the textbook definition of "violence" aren't always in agreement.

You are saying all this to me like I've never experienced any of it and am not disgusted by it. I have and I am.

I'm not going to keep arguing semantics.

I'm deeply offended that people keep trying to minimize molestation because rape is so much worse.

I can tell you, from personal experience, that that is simply not always the case.

No one here said molestion wasn’t a violent act.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by trobesmom

Is that supposed to be funny?

He's trying to make a joke of the entire thread.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

You've never been groped or felt up by a tsa agent?

No I haven't. And if you have, what happened to you was wrong.

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

I think its an excellent idea.

Sexual abuse isn't something victims should be ashamed about. If one feels so moved to make his or her abuse public knowledge, more power to them.

The only people who should be ashamed of sexual abuse are the perpetrators.

Agreed. It's unfortunate how our country looks down on anyone who has been abused, which is a big reason so many do not speak out.

I would not join in like this, but more power to those who do. I would prefer people speak up at the time. If they were kids, like my sister, it's good to feel that others understand you because it can otherwise be a very lonely world for them.

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

It's for harassment and/or assault.

Kind of weird to lump them both together.

Harassment may not cause the same level of damage, but it can be very damaging all on its own.

[FluidFreedom]

Redzin You said in a previous post that not all rapes are violent. That’s just wrong. Molestation is violence too.

[RedZin]

Originally Posted by FluidFreedom

No one here said molestion wasn’t a violent act.

Reread the thread. I'm not saying you said it.

There's a comment in here about how rape is somehow a different "degree" of awful... I'm paraphrasing.

I'm saying that it depends on the circumstances.

The law even treats rape like a bigger deal than molestation. That's probably another reason more people do not speak up.

Why tell anyone when you're 8 years old that that 16yo guy keeps putting his hands down your pants and shoving his fingers into your underwear so he can fondle you if nobody thinks that it's a big deal unless there's a penis involved?

Even when there's a penis involved, how often do you hear "well, what was she doing?"

(Or wearing? Or saying? Or drinking?)

So, what does an 8yo girl or boy do to deserve having an adult (high schoolers are adults to 8yo kids, too) touch their genitals without their permission?

Why do kids feel like they did something to encourage it? They are CHILDREN.

And, then, people will say... well, that's pedophilia...

But, who cares? It's still molestation.

And, molestation is wrong.

And it is a violent act, in a psychological sense, even if the person being molested didn't get any cuts or bruises.

Sigh.

I am done talking about this now.

It is clear (and has nothing to do with you, FF) that there are people who are always going to put their heads in the sand.

Nobody should touch anyone else's groin, breasts, or buttocks without permission. This should be pretty simple to accomplish, but there are people in this world who just don't give a damn who they hurt.