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Old 10-19-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed View Post
You can't have private conversations in school?
Never said they could.
I thought you were referring to a private setting.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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I always crack up when provincial people cite multiple language options on an ATM as a sign of their oppression as an English speaker. Have they ever travelled to another country and used an ATM?
Based on the comment in this thread, some of the people may have never left the county they were born in and in some cases, there are still people who've never traveled 100 miles from where they were born and raised, and certainly there are masses who have not, traveled to other states, because if they had, they'd know that in various regions of the country, people speak very differently and within those regions, there are places where the usage of the language is a mix of many modifications, Then as referenced above, a great many of these posters certainly have never been outside this country.

A great many foreign countries are far more considerate and accommodating of people from other places than is the case in a great many places within America.

It's the Most Insane thing, that OUR DEMOCRACY is promoted as the best system on the planet as to Governance system and the promoted image of diversity, but the "under-current" of the bias, bigotry and racism and disdain for the variables of cultural difference is an Atrocity and Insult to the promoted image of American Diversity.

It's exampled in this site frequently and on many threads...... The incessant promotion of bias and bigotry is like a lead in manner for a number of participants who post commentary.
There is many so ingrained with self elated fiction of thinking themselves more than they are, they often can't hear themselves and never think to review themselves for concern to be respectful of others and the differences of others. They have a ingrained delusion that others are suppose to emulate them, because they can't get back the fictional delusion of thinking themselves as superior to others.
These are often among the worst ethically and they continually demonstrate a void as to the concerns to be considerate of human differences among what is the make up of the American Citizen Population.
Often times many of these types, use the terms "We", "Us" as a form of "exclusion context, as they have difficult understanding how to use those terms in the broader diverse "inclusion context".

The craziness in America has a long history, from the slavery system, to the system of a multitude of historical immigrants over 100's of years, coming to American with their divisiveness and then promoting it once they get here and then passing it from generations to generations, Examples, many from various European nations came here with bias toward people from other various European countries, Some from England can't stand the Polish, Others can't Stand the Italians, and then they take it further when people are from other regions of the world, such as the Far East and the Middle East.. and Africa.... But they don't stop there... they become even more insane in the madness, to then only support each other by skin color, when they want to discriminate against people of a darker skin, ((suddenly to do so, they "temporarily" forget about their undertone of country of orgin bias and bigotry such as "England can't stand the Polish, Others can't Stand the Italians, Germans can't stand the Jewish, and the Irish can't stand the English and ETC.... and go straight to "skin color bias and bigotry" and they do that then as a group against the darker skin people. Now, its become pronounced in bais about language.

We see the craziness with Puerto Rico a Spanish Speak Territory who also Speaks English, yet, they are referred to as "them", and the use of WE and Us when used in relation to their territory, the terms are used as forms of "exclusion" as if they are not Americans.

NONE of this CRAZINESS is representative of America and does not fit in Accord with This Nations Constitution, nor with its systems of Laws, nor does it fit with the promoted image of what is American, and it certainly stands against the policy and system of "diversity" as being the basis of the make up of what is the American Population.

It's great that the young people of today, are pushing forward with improving Civil Rights for American People and Civil Respect for the people of the world.
Here we are, still....after all the struggles to get to the Civil Rights Acts, of which there has had to be many, we are still facing situations where the promotion of Civil Rights is still necessary as an issue that will take more Acts to deal with the variations of biases people continue to carry, generate and promote...
Civil Rights Acts becomes necessary in the greatness of our Regulatory Governance System, to enact laws to prohibit the madness and attach penalty to those who promote such and strongly enforce such penalty upon those who engage in acts derived from such motivations of bias and bigotry and racism, cultural bias and every other form of Civil Rights denigration's of others.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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It was both.
Either way it was disrespectful and disruptive.
But more so because they were speaking Spanish, or else she wouldn't have said what she said.

If those students were speaking "American", I'm sure her warning would've gone much differently.

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I wish we had more of the story because if they were using Spanish to talk smack about her on purpose then I can see her getting upset. If they were just talking in Spanish for any other reason shes lost her marbles.
True. I can understand this.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Never said they could.
I thought you were referring to a private setting.
The problem is they were singled out BECAUSE they were speaking Spanish, not only their disruptive behavior. If these were black kids and the teacher said stop speaking in Ebonics it's rude and disruptive, all hell would have broken loose.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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But more so because they were speaking Spanish, or else she wouldn't have said what she said.

If those students were speaking "American", I'm sure her warning would've gone much differently.



True. I can understand this.
This is exactly what I thought. They were singled out because they were speaking Spanish, not being disruptive in general. She wouldn't have the balls to tell black kids to stop speaking Ebonics because it's rude and disrespectful, let's be honest with ourselves here. She would have been fired the next day
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Really? I don't see the comedy.
You had to have read the original Facebook meme to get it.

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Old 10-19-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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eh...not exactly


American.....or American English is a language


when my G-Grandfather came over from the kingdom of Austria, he could speak, read, and write 7 different languages (one of them the not defunked actual Austrian language), none of them English....the FIRST thing he did was learn the language....after that he became a citizen...his words..."I am an American, I will speak American"
Irony of ironies.

FYI, the word you meant to use is DEFUNCT.

Defunct | Define Defunct at Dictionary.com


adjective 1. no longer in effect or use; not operating or functioning: a defunct law; a defunct organization.


2. no longer in existence; dead; extinct: a defunct person; a defunct tribe of Indians.


noun 3. the defunct, the dead person referred to: the survivors of the defunct.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You had to have read the original Facebook meme to get it.
The student was not speaking Navajo and she was not having a private phone call. She was disrupting class. The teacher did the right thing. Hopefully ICE is on the case.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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Maybe she should have said it differently. But purposely speaking foreign languages in an non foreign language learning class is disruptive and hostile.
Only if you are a nativist snowflake. How is a student speaking Spanish more disruptive and hostile than a student speaking English? If the students were talking while the teacher was trying to teach, the language they were speaking is irrelevant. If the students were talking to each other while people were getting seated and the real work had yet to begin, merely speaking Spanish was not disruptive and hostile to anyone.

If the mere sound of people speaking Spanish offends you, you are the one with the problem.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Where's the rest of the story? Why would a school suspend students over talking in class (regardless of the language)? The article says "Students staged a walkout on Monday in support of the three students who were kicked out" What else happened that these students were suspended or are these students frequent fliers with discipline issues?
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