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If he hadn't been assassinated, he was going to dismantle the CIA and pull our advisory troops out of South Vietnam
He would have had to be good at surviving to make that happen and he wasn’t. I personally believe he was neck deep in getting us into that war. Ike warned us, he should have named the threat, Democrats.
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He would have had to be good at surviving to make that happen and he wasn’t. I personally believe he was neck deep in getting us into that war. Ike warned us, he should have named the threat, Democrats.
Wrong, it was Eisenhower's administration that sent the advisory troops in, and it didn't escalate to combat until LBJ
I'm continually curious about how Lincoln is regarded so highly when he was factually one of the most hated presidents of all time as well as statistically one of the worst.
I'm continually curious about how Lincoln is regarded so highly when he was factually one of the most hated presidents of all time as well as statistically one of the worst.
Which statistics make him among the worst? And as far as his being hated, where and when?
Best:
Washington: a great leader in times of peace and war
Lincoln: a visionary, rags to riches, moral, created Yosemite
T. Roosevelt: preservationist, Trust buster
F Roosevelt: elected 4 times
Eisenhower: interstate highway system, deported a large amount of illegal aliens
Worst:
Reagan: lowered wages and fired air traffic controllers which caused my husband’s employer to do the same
Trump: immoral
Obama: divided our country by race and class and filled his cabinet with Clinton appointees. Btw, I voted fir him because the alternatives were worse
Clinton: crooked, NAFTA
Nixon: crooked
Over the country's history surprisingly few of the Presidents have been great or even good. Here's my ranking. Yours?
1. George Washington (1789-1797) - Great
2. John Adams (1797-1801) - Medium but better in most roles than his term as President.
3. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) - Medium but better in most roles than his term as President.
4. James Madison (1809-1817) - Medium but better in most roles than his term as President. 5. James Monroe (1817-1825) Good
6. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) - Poor to Medium but better in most roles than his term as President.
7. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) Good but his policies ended in the Panic of 1837. Also one of two times that a two term or more Democratic president was succeeded by a Democrat.
8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) - Mediocre; term was stained by Panic of 1837
9. William Henry Harrison (1841) - Too short a time in office to know
10. John Tyler (1841-1845) Poor, and near-traitor. Voted for secession while serving on Virginia convention in 1861.
11. James K. Polk (1845-1849) Good.
12. Zachary Taylor (1849-1850) - Too short a time in office to know
13. Millard Fillmore (1850-1853) - Poor; mishandled sectional crises leading up to Civil War
14. Franklin Pierce (1853-1857) - Poor; Drunk, and mishandled sectional crises leading up to Civil War
15. James Buchanan (1857-1861) Poor; mishandled sectional crises leading up to Civil War 16. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865) Great
17. Andrew Johnson (1865-1869) Mediocre; Radical Republicans didn't give him a chance.
18. Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877) Poor to Medium but better in most roles than his term as President.
19. Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-1881) Good but ending reconstruction without ensuring equity and justice for freed slaves was a stain.
20. James A. Garfield (1881) - Too short a time in office to know
21. Chester Arthur (1881-1885) - Mediocre. Passed Civil Service but otherwise didn't do much
22. Grover Cleveland (1885-1889) Mediocre
23. Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893) Mediocre
24. Grover Cleveland (1893-1897) Mediocre
25. William McKinley (1897-1901) Mediocre 26. Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909) Great
27. William Howard Taft (1909-1913) Mediocre
28. Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) Poor. Racist turned idealist who gave away America's nascent leadership position in world.
29. Warren G. Harding (1921-1923) Mediocre syphilitic
30. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929) Mediocre
31. Herbert Hoover (1929-1933) Mediocre
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) Poor. One of the worst. Lots of Jewish blood on his hands. Basically a grandstander.
33. Harry S. Truman (1945-1953) Good to great.
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961) Mediocre
35. John F. Kennedy (1961-1963) Mediocre. Image better than reality
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) Mediocre and divisive.
37. Richard Nixon (1969-1974) Poor. One of the worst. Congenital liar and hypocrite.
38. Gerald Ford (1974-1977) Good and underrated
39. Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) Poor to terrible
40. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) Great
41. George Bush (1989-1993) Mediocre
42. Bill Clinton (1993-2001) Good
43. George W. Bush (2001-2009) Mediocre
44. Barack Obama (2009-2017) Poor to terrible
45. Donald Trump (2017- ) Too soon to say but earmarks of being medium to good.
Love the analysis. Not familiar with the Panic of 1837. Was the country on the verge of running out of beer?
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