Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-18-2017, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
27,606 posts, read 14,604,784 times
Reputation: 9169

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoLogic View Post
United States should build more nuclear power plants like China.
The nuclear meltdown at Three Mile Island in 1979 put a fork in that idea....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-18-2017, 06:11 AM
 
Location: USA
18,494 posts, read 9,161,666 times
Reputation: 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnluver8956 View Post
Recent innovation has overcome this. Your welcome

2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sfwDyiPTdU

2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKORsrlN-2k
Homework assignment: compare the cost of electricity (per kWh) from a bank of Tesla batteries and solar panels to a conventional coal, natural gas, nuclear, or hydroelectric plant.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: USA
18,494 posts, read 9,161,666 times
Reputation: 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
The nuclear meltdown at Three Mile Island in 1979 put a fork in that idea....
There are new nuclear reactor designs that are much safer. NuScale Power has recently submitted a new design to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission: NuScale Power - SMR Nuclear Technology

As much as I'd like to rely on wind and solar power, we don't (yet) have batteries that are cheap enough to make wind and solar economical.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 06:25 AM
 
23,974 posts, read 15,082,290 times
Reputation: 12952
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freak80 View Post
Homework assignment: compare the cost of electricity (per kWh) from a bank of Tesla batteries and solar panels to a conventional coal, natural gas, nuclear, or hydroelectric plant.
Do we need to factor in the cost to the taxpayers for military protection, accidents, pipeline land acquisitions, healthcare cost, yada yada? Fukushima? Maconda?

What do we do about the dumb chits who cannot figure out using solar when it is available and fossil fuel when the sun is not shining is better than fossil fuel all the time?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
34,231 posts, read 18,579,444 times
Reputation: 25802
There was NO nuclear meltdown at TMI. I lived in Middletown, PA. The technology we have today as far superior to 1979. That was almost 40 years ago.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: USA
18,494 posts, read 9,161,666 times
Reputation: 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by crone View Post
Do we need to factor in the cost to the taxpayers for military protection, accidents, pipeline land acquisitions, healthcare cost, yada yada? Fukushima? Maconda?
Please do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by crone View Post
What do we do about the dumb chits who cannot figure out using solar when it is available and fossil fuel when the sun is not shining is better than fossil fuel all the time?
The dumb chits are smart enough to understand the following equation:

Cost of (fossil plant + solar plant) > Cost of (fossil plant)

The dumb chits are also smart enough to read the New York Times.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/0...ww.google.com/

Paying 3 to 4x for electricity to achieve pitifully small reductions in CO2 is just stupid. Simply replacing coal plants with natural gas plants would probably be a far more economical way to reduce CO2 emissions. Natural gas emits roughly half the CO2 of coal, per kWh.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 07:07 AM
 
23,974 posts, read 15,082,290 times
Reputation: 12952
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freak80 View Post
Please do.



The dumb chits are smart enough to understand the following equation:

Cost of (fossil plant + solar plant) > Cost of (fossil plant)

The dumb chits are also smart enough to read the New York Times.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/0...ww.google.com/

Paying 3 to 4x for electricity to achieve pitifully small reductions in CO2 is just stupid. Simply replacing coal plants with natural gas plants would probably be a far more economical way to reduce CO2 emissions. Natural gas emits roughly half the CO2 of coal, per kWh.
Do you intend for my land to be confiscated for pipelines?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 07:12 AM
 
Location: USA
18,494 posts, read 9,161,666 times
Reputation: 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by crone View Post
Do you intend for my land to be confiscated for pipelines?
No, I intend for your land to be confiscated for power lines.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news...ew-power-lines
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 08:56 AM
 
24,410 posts, read 23,065,142 times
Reputation: 15016
In an industry that relies on tax breaks and government subsidies to survive. Take those way and solar power would collapse overnight.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-18-2017, 08:59 AM
 
13,898 posts, read 6,445,026 times
Reputation: 6960
Yeah it's so profitable, every time Obama tried to prop up one of these companies it went bankrupt within months.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top