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Old 10-18-2017, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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People have been migrating to big cities for, like, 150 years. As early as the mid-1800's there were rural counties even in the Midwest that were starting to lose population.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Who wants to live in an over crowded, expensive, dirty city?
I am utterly confused.
You read the thread, and this was your well thought out response?



The premise of the thread is that people are leaving bumble**** and moving to the cities.
If the cities are overcrowded, it's because people are moving there.
If the cities are expensive, it's because people are moving there (it's called demand).
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Correct. It's about extracting as much labor and money from the bottom 99% as possible.
Its also about keeping majority of people overly concerned about their own lives, they are less likely to become 'a problem'.

For anyone that has seen the movie 'They Live', Im really starting to believe this may be true to some degree(minus the aliens).

They Live was about a guy that found a pair of sunglasses that suddenly enabled him to see the world for it truly was, instead of billboards and ads for popular products we see with the naked eye, the signs said 'conform, stay asleep, spend, OBEY, etc. wearing the glasses, with aliens using us for their own benefit without us even knowing its going on.

I guess it would be called systematic conditioning.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Earth
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If American small towns and farther suburbs had more urban amenities, like places to hang out and drink and go to at night, there would not be as much demand to live in a city or a close in suburb to take advantage of those amenities.

The tyranny of zoning strikes again...
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I am utterly confused.
You read the thread, and this was your well thought out response?



The premise of the thread is that people are leaving bumble**** and moving to the cities.
If the cities are overcrowded, it's because people are moving there.
If the cities are expensive, it's because people are moving there (it's called demand).
There are people that are willing, and actually WANT (hard as it is to believe) to live in overcrowded, dirty cities, with miles of stop and go traffic, miles from nature. Good for them if that's what they want. There are a lot of us that prefer to live in a less crowded environment, close to or in a natural environment, away from the dirt and crowds of the concrete jungle. Good for them too.

Internet based commerce is opening up the way for rural and smaller communities to compete in many markets. Will be interesting to see if more people give up on metro areas for the higher quality of life in smaller towns and rural areas.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:03 AM
 
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Yeah, but who wants to live in the sticks?
So you’re saying you need a lot of people around to stimulate you?
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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Its also about keeping majority of people overly concerned about their own lives, they are less likely to become 'a problem'.

For anyone that has seen the movie 'They Live', Im really starting to believe this may be true to some degree(minus the aliens).

They Live was about a guy that found a pair of sunglasses that suddenly enabled him to see the world for it truly was, instead of billboards and ads for popular products we see with the naked eye, the signs said 'conform, stay asleep, spend, OBEY, etc. wearing the glasses, with aliens using us for their own benefit without us even knowing its going on.

I guess it would be called systematic conditioning.

You just sold me on watching 'They Live," but if there's one movie that does a great job of explaining the society we live in today, it's clearly; Idiocracy.

A few years ago, that movie was hilarious. Today, it's a really sad documentary.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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You just sold me on watching 'They Live," but if there's one movie that does a great job of explaining the society we live in today, it's clearly; Idiocracy.

A few years ago, that movie was hilarious. Today, it's a really sad documentary.
Ive never seen Idiocracy, but will try to find it.

They Live is great, it was from the mid 80s and stars former wrestler Rowdy Rod Piper, its a B movie, but has a cult following today. The aliens are kind of cheesy though.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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There are people that are willing, and actually WANT (hard as it is to believe) to live in overcrowded, dirty cities, with miles of stop and go traffic, miles from nature. Good for them if that's what they want. There are a lot of us that prefer to live in a less crowded environment, close to or in a natural environment, away from the dirt and crowds of the concrete jungle. Good for them too.

Internet based commerce is opening up the way for rural and smaller communities to compete in many markets. Will be interesting to see if more people give up on metro areas for the higher quality of life in smaller towns and rural areas.
My wife would prefer to live in a rural area, I would prefer to live in a beach town, so I understand that way of thinking (we're in the middle of Manhattan). I had the same feelings about e-commerce, and it allowing for people to not live so close to the major urban centers, but the data suggests that people are moving to the cities now, more than ever.

I was only commenting on Dbones dumb reply. In a thread asking why so many people are moving to the cities, a response of 'who wants to live in cities?' makes no sense at all. It's like he has a quota of dumb posts he needs to reach per day. It gets annoying, and takes away from good discussion.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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If American small towns and farther suburbs had more urban amenities, like places to hang out and drink and go to at night, there would not be as much demand to live in a city or a close in suburb to take advantage of those amenities.

The tyranny of zoning strikes again...

But they do....nothing like siting by the bonfire with a glass of bourbon and a cigar. Or sitting in front of the fireplace reading a book or watching a movie. Good times !
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