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Where's all these anti gun other societies don't have guns utopian arguments...
Your concern is masked as "saving life", numbers not lying, where are you calling for automobile control?
Muh Sandy hook and Columbine, where are you calling for abortion control?
Where is the call for ending a sedentary life style, banning fast food, soda, etc etc?
I mean your arguments are ban guns for this, ban guns for that.
You are more at risk getting killed in a car accident. Are you willing to forfeit your modes of transportation?
Where's the call to ban opioid pain killers?
This is why, your arguments are feeble and driven purely by emotion. Not logic... not statistics. So... if Trump is going to take America into 1930s-45 era Germany... why on earth would you call for a ban of arms that would aid in toppling an evil regime?
Because they're brainless idiots. They don't think. They "emote." That's all.
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Did the media scare you with their manipulation of the word "assault"?
If all life is precious, and all death is tragic...
Why aren't you guys as vehement about other causes of death?
39k and Change REPORTED (true numbers unknown) biological weapons,
And no calls to end having frivolous sex and IV drug use...
Whatever you guys are drinking or smoking... stop.
I'm not suggesting firearm homicides/murder rates need to escalate to 30 40 50k before something is done about it... what I am suggesting is you should really take a look at the bigger picture of things in what causes death and tragedy... you, focusing on firearms... a constitutionally protected right, is misguided. Your arguments time and time again... all based on irrelevant emotion...
I pose a solution though, all of us pro 2A types, could skip range day once a month, put that money into a go fund me pot, and buy you your citizenship to a country of your choosing that does not allow or has strict firearm laws...
Every weekend I go through at the very least $650 in ammo... other shooting sports enthusiasts go through more, others less. You could go live in your utopia. You'll be happy.
We'll be happy, problem solved, everyone is happy... We'll purchase your house at Fair market value, or pay your lease off and toss a few thousand to secure a new apartment in the country of your choosing. Pay your moving and shipping expenses the whole 9 yards.
OR BETTER YET! YOU COULD KEEP YOUR HOUSES AND RENT THEM OUT FOR RESIDUAL INCOME! Think about it! You could get 850-1500+ per month and if you wind up in a country with a favorable exchange rate to the dollar, you may not even have to work!
You won't even have to go far. There's Mexico. There's Canada. Or you could have a spot in the UK France Spain Germany. Maybe Venezuela or Australia...
How about it? What do you say?
You get your utopia, we keep America, America. Land of the Free home of the Brave.
After all, there are countries that have the socialized debt solutions that you seek. Health insurance, education... everything you guys want and like.
I wasn't happy in NY so I sold my house and some toys, and moved to Florida so... if I can do it, and you mostly claim liberal cities and areas are oh so wealthy, you shouldn't have a problem doing the same...
I mean... afterall... your words are that Trump is literally Hitler and transforming the country into Nazi Germany... you have your way out to a non Hitler non fascist regime that shares all of your ideology and beliefs.
I don't think so, you proved in another thread if hate is hugged it crumbles to pieces.
Everyone just needs to go out and hug Nazis. Then America can't become Nazi Germany... most of those neo Nazi punks are just that, they are mostly the result of a broken home and look for validation and compassion. Just like biker gangs of beer bellied long haired bearded 1% clubs, and street gangs...
Their backgrounds are the same. Their actions and rhetoric is similar, skin tone being the only difference.
I disagree. I think what happened in Nazi Germany could EASILY happen here given our history and the amount of real hatred that exists in this country.
A strong fascist type could very well get a large chunk of this population to murder their fellow countrymen and put others in concentration camps. You underestimate the potential cruelty of Americans should they be whipped up by the fanaticism of the right leader. I hear people say things that aren’t that far off the mark as it is.
Right now, we have a Patriot Act that gives a potential dictator some serious powers. As it is, we’re holding lots of people in Guantanamo without charge or trial. What’s to stop a president from designating this or that domestic group as dangerous to our national security and rounding those people up? And believe me, hundreds of thousands of Americans would gladly join in.
Americans are easily influenced. They aren’t as well educated overall as people in other first world countries. We’re ripe for a fascist takeover.
I disagree. I think what happened in Nazi Germany could EASILY happen here given our history and the amount of real hatred that exists in this country.
A strong fascist type could very well get a large chunk of this population to murder their fellow countrymen and put others in concentration camps. You underestimate the potential cruelty of Americans should they be whipped up by the fanaticism of the right leader. I hear people say things that aren’t that far off the mark as it is.
Right now, we have a Patriot Act that gives a potential dictator some serious powers. As it is, we’re holding lots of people in Guantanamo without charge or trial. What’s to stop a president from designating this or that domestic group as dangerous to our national security and rounding those people up? And believe me, hundreds of thousands of Americans would gladly join in.
Americans are easily influenced. They aren’t as well educated overall as people in other first world countries. We’re ripe for a fascist takeover.
I agree that we can become fascist but I doubt they can achieve racial genocide at the level they did in Nazi Germany
Jews made up less than 1% of the population in Nazi Germny, Blacks and Hispanics combined make about 29%.
Then again I might be wrong, Tutsis made up 14% of the Rwandan population and the Hutu majority still committed genocide against them
I disagree. I think what happened in Nazi Germany could EASILY happen here given our history and the amount of real hatred that exists in this country.
I do, too, and it begins with gun banners. Just like the Nazis. No way. No how.
The Nazis banned Jews from owning guns, and shortly thereafter executed 6+ million of them.
I agree that we can become fascist but I doubt they can achieve racial genocide at the level they did in Nazi Germany
Jews made up less than 1% of the population in Nazi Germny, Blacks and Hispanics combined make about 29%.
Then again I might be wrong, Tutsis made up 14% of the Rwandan population and the Hutu majority still committed genocide against them
Once the ball gets rolling, I think Americans could make what the Germans did look like child’s play.
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I do, too, and it begins with gun banners. Just like the Nazis. No way. No how.
The Nazis banned Jews from owning guns, and shortly thereafter executed 6+ million of them.
Nope. It could happen here without a shred of anti gun legislation. The groups that would be targeted aren’t large enough for the fascists to worry about taking too many casualties. Moreover, they already live in areas where their numbers are concentrated, so that would make it much easier.
But let’s just say that it started with anti gun legislation. Who’d complain if the government decided to strip a group of gun rights if its a group they don’t like. After all, the NRA have already proved that they’re a gun rights organization that stands for white gun ownership only. They’ve never come out in defense of Philando Castile, and I know why.
So many are ignoring the warning signs of history and pretending something like Nazi Germany could never happen again, especially in the US.
It can.
Clearly it can. Liberals and their antifa thugs are behaving exactly like Hitlers brown shirts. They want to restrict free speech and punish people who dare to not follow left wing groupthink. After the election they enacted their own Krystalnacht. The left in the US is well down the nazi paved road.
Once the ball gets rolling, I think Americans could make what the Germans did look like child’s play.
Nope. It could happen here without a shred of anti gun legislation. The groups that would be targeted aren’t large enough for the fascists to worry about taking too many casualties. Moreover, they already live in areas where their numbers are concentrated, so that would make it much easier.
But let’s just say that it started with anti gun legislation. Who’d complain if the government decided to strip a group of gun rights if its a group they don’t like. After all, the NRA have already proved that they’re a gun rights organization that stands for white gun ownership only. They’ve never come out in defense of Philando Castile, and I know why.
No that would not fly with second amendment rights supporters. They don't like any anti-gun legislation. Maybe a few nazis would approve of stripping someone they don't like of gun rights, but not Real American right to bear arms supporters. Most people are not nazis and cannot be convinced to be nazis.
If many people really are nervous about something like this, then it is strange that they keep poking at the hornet's nest.
Don't forget Hillary won the popular vote - MOST people did not vote for this "literally Hitler" guy. Most of those who did just liked his message of jobs, tax cuts and America first. They are not fascists.
Nope. It could happen here without a shred of anti gun legislation.
Not likely. That's why the Nazis had to disarm the Jews. Removing the means of self-defense is Step 1 on the quick path to genocide/democide. It's a leftist regime's dream come true. Look at the 100+ million they killed in the 20th century, alone.
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