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Old 10-23-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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this is some heads-should-roll stuff here.

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In writing a report about the cancer risk of glyphosate, a key ingredient in Monsanto’s weed killer Roundup, the World Health Organization (WHO) edited out references to evidence that the pesticide does not cause cancer in animals, Reuters reports in a story published yesterday (October 19).
WHO Cherry-Picked Data on Pesticide, Investigation Finds | The Scientist
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Last week, The Times reported how the scientist who advised the IARC to classify glyphosate as carcinogenic received dollars 160,000 from law firms suing Monsanto on behalf of cancer victims.
War against chemicals is a shame on science | The Australian
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It turns out that it was Portier himself, who as chair of an IARC committee in 2014 had proposed that the agency undertake a review of glyphosate in the first place.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffre.../#19984a1d18eb
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The World Health Organization’s cancer agency dismissed and edited findings from a draft of its review of the weedkiller glyphosate that were at odds with its final conclusion that the chemical probably causes cancer.
One effect of the changes to the draft, reviewed by Reuters in a comparison with the published report, was the removal of multiple scientists’ conclusions that their studies had found no link between glyphosate and cancer in laboratory animals.
Reuters found 10 significant changes that were made between the draft chapter on animal studies and the published version of IARC’s glyphosate assessment. In each case, a negative conclusion about glyphosate leading to tumors was either deleted or replaced with a neutral or positive one.
In glyphosate review, WHO cancer agency edited out 'non-carcinogenic' findings | Reuters
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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That's what science is all about these days....An agenda.
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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That's what science is all about these days....An agenda.
all too often, it is.

the timing for this is just delicious. the EU is just about to vote on whether to renew approval for glyphosate for another 10 years.

Glyphosate showdown in Europe this week - Agriland
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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One of the reason people are so disgruntled these days is they can't figure out which lie to believe.

All sides pay big money to hired guns to say whatever they want.

Public policy is the new way to get rich quick.
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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its sad that politics are heavily influencing scientists and their conclusions. perhaps someone has a grude against monsanto, and this is they way they are going to attack monsanto?

in order for science to be effective, it has to be free of politics. even peer review has to be free of politics.
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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That still doesn't mean you can invest poison, right? Whatever the conclusion is. Then again I don't own stock in Monsanto, so if they do ban it anyway it will only benefit me, right OP?
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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That still doesn't mean you can invest poison, right?
invest poison?

i'd rather invest in a 401K, but whatever floats your boat..


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Whatever the conclusion is. Then again I don't own stock in Monsanto, so if they do ban it anyway it will only benefit me, right OP?
how will it benefit you if the EU bans it?

oh, and what a novel idea. let's imply that someone must have investments in Monsanto in order to notice fudged data that makes the WHO look foolish. no one has ever thought of that one before
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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More ignorant, greedy bottom feeders trying to extort money from Monsanto? Can't say I'm surprised.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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More ignorant, greedy bottom feeders trying to extort money from Monsanto? Can't say I'm surprised.
So? Do you own Monsanto stock?

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invest poison?

i'd rather invest in a 401K, but whatever floats your boat..




how will it benefit you if the EU bans it?

oh, and what a novel idea. let's imply that someone must have investments in Monsanto in order to notice fudged data that makes the WHO look foolish. no one has ever thought of that one before
I meant ingest.

Even so, who cares? Why wouldn't you want LESS poison in the environment, in your food? The only way you can be against that is, sorry, but you have a financial interest in the problem.
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Old 10-23-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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I meant ingest.

Even so, who cares? Why wouldn't you want LESS poison in the environment, in your food? The only way you can be against that is, sorry, but you have a financial interest in the problem.
do you know a better, even less toxic herbicide than glyphosate? if so, i'm all ears.

in the meantime, glyphosate is over 500x less poisonous than vitamin D and 5x less poisonous than the active ingredient in chocolate, so i won't be losing any sleep over it.

https://image.ibb.co/eA42Vm/toxicity_table4.png

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