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it isn't a mockery, it's exactly how the system worked for her. She is an example of the system, she did her time and is doing better things. She paid her debt to society and is now trying to better things for those exiting the system, and you begrudge her?
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Originally Posted by banjomike
It doesn't matter what I think of Boudin's sentence.
She was found guilty, was sentenced, did her time, and that's how the law works. She paid the penalty.
Most folks who go to prison get out eventually, no matter what their crime was.
Did I agree with her sentence? No.
But I didn't think the trial was a mockery, either.
Like I said before, if you don't like the system of justice we have here, there are other countries where the justice is not like ours. Choose your place and go be happy at last.
I wonder whether the families of the slain officers agree with you.
No they should not be killed, but I wouldn’t mind if a rope or knife was left behind in their jail cell while a suicidal song plays in continuous loop.
Unless there is an immediate threat to maim or kiell the police or more innocncents, no they should stand trial. As much as I wanted to see The one who shot Giffords or the one who shot up the Aurora theater, as soon as they were disarmed, it is wrong to kill them unless there was an immediate threat. This goes beyond race, creed and gender.
I wonder whether the families of the slain officers agree with you.
Any police officer killed in the line of duty is a tragedy, but I'm sure their families will take solace knowing that the officers, knew what they signed up for.
Maybe you should propose that more tax cheat suspects die during arrests?
I am sure that Officer Steve Baker might have had quite a moral dilemma had he known when he arrested Robert Alton Harris that Harris had just killed his son hours before.
That said, a right to a trial is just as important as all the others.
No they should not be killed, but I wouldn’t mind if a rope or knife was left behind in their jail cell while a suicidal song plays in continuous loop.
I know we can't officially allow police officers to serve as judge, jury and executioners. The question I have is why more of these people don't perish during a struggle during arrest. Failing that why aren't they mixed with the general prison population or die during an escape attempt? I am not amused by the lengthy imprisonments or, in the case of Manson, the wild, theatrical trials that make a mockery of the court system.
Extrajudicial killings are the worst sort of mockery of the court system.
I wonder whether the families of the slain officers agree with you.
That's why we have the ideal of blind justice, the impersonal, unemotional machinery that upholds the law and doesn't make decisions based on desire for revenge or personal loss. Because once we let the families settle things, we're regressing to where a human life's value is measured in the vindictiveness and violent capacity of the family/tribe/clan. And that sort of flies in the face of the entire "all men are created equal" deal.
Actually, I believe you have answered the question yourself, in the title of your thread.
A person who has not been convicted is a suspect. I understand that there are those who appear to be utterly guilty, and in some situations, are obviously guilty, but they are still entitled to a trial, if for no other reason than the fact that to deny them one would set a very bad precedent. There have been cases when the "obviously" guilty were later proven to be anything but.
If a shooter or other murderer is killed while the crime is in progress, because the use of deadly force could save a life, that is another story. I would pull the trigger myself. Once the threat is over, though, that's when we have to let the justice system do its job, if we are going to be anything like a civilized society. I realize the system is flawed, but it's a lot better than the alternative.
There are some practical considerations here, too, if the right to a trial does not impress you. People who kill sometimes have accomplices. If the person is killed during an arrest, any information they may have had about those people is lost.
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