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Old 12-10-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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How could you agree the article when you never read the article?
1. The tax bill will pay for itself.
Not unless spending is cut. It isnt about taxes, it's about out of control spending. That you ignored that is telling.

2.It will supercharge growth.
from the article - "Why doesn’t the bill do more for the economy’s growth rate? In part because the government is passing tax cuts when the economy is already doing well"

the economy isn't doing well. How could it when welfare is still much higher than before the crash?

3. Cutting the corporate tax rate will lead businesses to give raises to regular workers.
A myth because it will boost the income but not as high as $4,000 a year? lol

Do I need to go on anymore since I exposed your link as garbage?
How naive some people are. Cutting corporate tax rates will only increase money in their own pockets. Why would they feel the need to pay their workers more. And there is no guarantee they will hire more workers. This is just an assumption. But I'm sure the shareholders are salivating at this...more money lining their pockets. This tax plan favors the 1% which is Trump. It has been presented as a tax plan to help the middle class though. It's just lies they tell.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:17 PM
 
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You would need to be some dope to believe the TEA party was not out to help ordinary americans. They are small government Constitutionalists , this kind of idealogy always helps the middle class the most.
Then tell us what they did to help the middle class
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Old 12-11-2017, 05:27 AM
 
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You would need to be some dope to believe the TEA party was not out to help ordinary americans. They are small government Constitutionalists , this kind of idealogy always helps the middle class the most.
the TEA party were - are a koch bros vehicle , those guys are not concerned about anyone remotely middle class , useful idiots were welcome to help them however ( and did )
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Old 12-11-2017, 05:29 AM
 
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the TEA party were - are a koch bros vehicle , those guys are not concerned about anyone remotely middle class , useful idiots were welcome to help them however ( and did )
The Tea Party technically DID start as a grass-roots movement, but was corrupted in less than a year into a right-wing mouthpiece for huge corporations. I remember distinctly the change in message from "hold big business accountable for screwing up the economy!" to "big business can do no wrong, and don't let the government hold them accountable for anything."

The problem is right-wingers don't understand this change - or much of anything else - so some of them still vote under the delusion that the Tea Party is "fighting for them" instead of fighting for huge corporations.
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Old 12-11-2017, 05:34 AM
 
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And President Bush's stimulus checks didn't stop one of the worst recessions ever.
I got one of those. I think it was like between $100-$300. Not exactly groundbreaking money even back then.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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You made all this up. You never ONCE discussed the actual cuts and how the overwhelming majority of people in the middle class will benefit. Instead you whined and got fussy.
yeah i get it, you know i am right, lack a rebuttal so you make personal attacks instead. exactly the weak sauce i have come to expect.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:02 AM
 
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Of course it will work. It will incentivize capital investment in the US. With near full employment it will put massive upward pressure on wages.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:03 AM
 
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Are you trying to convince yourself? Nobody’s going to buy that garbage.

This is the STUPIDEST THREAD of the day.
Now it might be.


What qualifications do you have in macroeconomics?
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Why do people think 2017 is 1983???

It ain't.

34 years later globalization and technology have completely altered the world. There will be no wage growth - and no growth in the GDP, either.

Further, there was no "magic" under Reagan as has been recited numerous times on this thread and there won't be now, either.

I am now planning for inflation and recession.
The idiocy is mind numbing. Tax cuts are magic for the economy!!!

Like a bunch of wannabe Alex P Keatons stoned on Wall ST Journal fumes.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:07 AM
 
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Of course it will work. It will incentivize capital investment in the US. With near full employment it will put massive upward pressure on wages.

It will incentivize dividend payouts and cash hoarding and have little effect on wages for the vast majority of Americans.

It's not 1983.
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