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Old 10-24-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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Any politician who wants to legally ban abortion as well as gay marriage can NOT claim to be for small government....
Got a bill that either Cruz or Lee supported to do any of this? I didn't this so.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:21 PM
 
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"Reckless, outrageous, and undignified behavior has become excused and countenanced as “telling it like it is,” when it is actually just reckless, outrageous, and undignified."

So absolutely true. Truer words could not have been uttered.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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In August Flakes approval rating in AZ was 18%
Poll: Flake

Corker was also struggling in TN and McCain has a higher approval rating with Democrats than he does with Republicans.

They all need to go.
Flake needs to go because he is a fake. He deserves that 18% for being a liar. As I've stated, he has spoken out against Trump time and time again but they are just empty words because he voted party line time and time again. He is not liked among the far right because he didn't go as far to the right as they want and Democrats don't like him because he wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare. He had numerous protests over this in the last year before and during his town hall. Sadly AZ is mostly far-right.

Corker I have no knowledge on so I will not comment on. McCain I can since he is an AZ senator. One I voted for President in 2008. Position-ally, I like McCain. I wouldn't have voted for him in 2008 if I didn't. I didn't just vote for him in the 2016 general and instead voted Rep. Kirkpatrick. Why, well i didn't agree with McCain being in office for as long as I've been alive. i promised to never vote McCain again for the paid off DeVos vote.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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An analyst on NPR was discussing this today, and said that Trumpees would see this as Trump draining the swamp. Of course, your side is going to say this is wonderful, but the reality is, more and more people are so disgusted by Trump and his administration that they simply can not be party to it , in good conscience.

When YOUR OWN PARTY starts to throw in the towel, you know things are really bad. Flake, Corker, and McCain have shown courage to say "I'm mad as Hell, and I am not going to take it any more !" Pretty soon, Trump is only going to have Melania and his barber to help run the country........everyone else will be long gone.

"Running like a fine oiled machine !"



Feel better now?


Self-congratulatory speeches aside, Flake dropped put because he knew he would lose the primary.


If by some miracle he got through the primary, he would have lost the general election,.


AZ Republican voters have made it clear that they will not support him.


"The survey also shows Flake trailing Republican primary opponent Kelli Ward in a head-to-head matchup 58-31 percent. He trails by more than 20 points among registered Republicans and unaffiliated voters and is behind in every region in the state."


Poll shows Flake down huge in primary and general election | TheHill




As for AZ, the last time they elected a Democrat for US Senator (class 1) was 1988.


Their class 3 Senator has been a Republican going back to 1968 and the election of Barry Goldwater.


Yes, it's been that long.


Their state government is under solid Republican control.


Not sure where you get the idea that AZ voters are looking for a Democrat.
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Old 10-24-2017, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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swamp dweller? What are you talking about ? Flake is no swamp monster at this point you guys are just stick that label on anyone and everyone who dares speak out.

Shame on you dude. Flake is not shady thief like Trump and maybe that is the whole problem.

Trump has spent his life kissing up to the coastal elites and licking the boots of old monied white men.

You guys dont appear to know the first thing about the real "swamp".
Flake gave it away when he said NEW WORLD ORDER . He is a globalist and against borders, our own sovereignty and identity as an independent nation.
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Old 10-25-2017, 03:23 AM
 
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Paid or coerced to say what he's saying by the GOP . I guess they will try to damage Trump at their own expense, anything to get an outsider out of DC. But wait, when and if a left wing outsider gets in there, the DNC will have their knives sharpened and will be out to backstab them the same way. Only more violently.
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Old 10-25-2017, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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More Republican Congress Members should speak up...(but they won't, because they've been agents of chaos and conflict generations for decades promoting disruption and degradation!!!) those who sit silent and those who endorse and pander to the Madness of Trump, should be banned from the American Political System Forever!!!

It's insane how the Right Winger support such madness, but the truth is. The Right Wing Loves Conflict and Contention... They spent 8 yrs fighting anything and everything, without even knowing what they were fighting, they fought because they saw a black man in the Seat as President. If they could find no reason they would create fiction to devise an illusions to support their need and desperate desires for Conflict and Contention.

America has installed a Swindling, Lying FOOL, in the Office of the Presidency. Hopefully more Americans wake up and realize how destructive and detrimental Republican are and how damaging they have been for Decades to and against America.

It's like a force of evil fills their ranks, and they seek to do nothing but destroy something. The 6 yr multi million dollar mess they created behind fighting health care, and when time came to see what they had, they had absolutely nothing, but a plan to harm and damage 10's of millions of Americans, all for the sake to try and give the wealthy some massive tax break. They have no idea what is the collateral damages of the Tax plan and the devastating cuts it wants to invoke upon Medicaid and Medicare, which will impact Millions of sick people, and cause many other to loose jobs and cause the whole business system that supplies medical clinicians to also loose their jobs, and the reverberation will ripple through the entire economic system of America. This will be multiples by the damage pursued to be done to the EPA, The Trade Deals and Our International Associations.

Republican feel they did not destroy enough in 2007-2008, they want to do more damage and they want to make it more widespread, and then they want to promote every angle of civil unrest as they can. It's nothing more than the Ideals of The Confederacy, who has never ceased its Attacks on the United States of America. They now feel embolden behind the Barbarian of Greed and Ignorance,which is the make up of the imbecile Trump.

American People and People Around The World, want this Barbarian of Greed and Ignorance to be gone, and we now see the "madness of the Republican Party front and Center, in their willful neglect and disregard for America, to do nothing and leave this imbecile in office.

He has taken America Down in the eyes of the World, it has exposed the Rabid Mentality of the segment of white society that still lives with the racial ignorance in mentality as if its the 1900's -1960's.... Nation upon nation will for many years to come will be with their guard up to ensure they don't allow any Right Wing policy and encroachments to damage the hard gained progress they've made over the decades. All Republican have demonstrated to the world is the Vile that has been the Right Winger White Ethnic Madness, which has promoted disrespect upon and against people of the world for centuries and decades, and the bigoted mad man Trump is sealing the deal for nations to oppose any white right wing attempts to do anything on a global levels that impacts or affects other nations. Because they now see without a doubt the mentality of vile that Group is built upon.

The Liberal Minded whites who demonstrate their respect for Diversity will do well and continue to be a global community respecter... But other nations will be careful, that none of the Liberal minded white society is being covertly manipulated and used by any of the Right Winger to push any agenda item under any circumstances, that is connected to Right Winger White Republican System Members.

Most Right Wingers are Blind Minded by their bigotry and their delusion of superiority until they can't see that other nations are moving ahead, they've out built us 100:1 and China now has a supercomputer that is 5 time faster than anything that American has. The Global Supply Chain for Industrial Production is now in foreign lands and very powerful in their structure and capability, the Asian Pacific and the East Asian region dominated by the Industrial power of China.

America now gets to see first hand the lying of Right Winger System players and Trump has insulted the Office of the Presidency in ways that no nation will give America respect under any current or future Republican Administration and/or a Majority Republican Congress. Who will suffer is the American people.

Russia gained what it wanted with its PURCHASE OF TRUMP, AND THE CRONIES HE HAS AMASSED, By the purchase of Trump they have used his ignorance to wage war against everything in America and Against Every Aspect of the American Government. They now see how ignorant a mass segment of Right Wingers are and they have demonstrated how gullible they have been to be hoodwinked during the election, and they watched American swallow everything their Russian Operative (Trump) Presented.

All they had to do is wave money in his face and the sold out and committed to attack America's Government and its Congress. They knew the greed of the self interest vanity of Right Wingers would accept anything with a vain hope of getting money, and they used the biggest swindler and the American operative who willingly sold everything out to underworld dark money, so they spent their time and groomed him with cheap purchases of his gaudy properties, which means they bought a minion cheap.... and he has has already done "Trillions of Dollars" of Damage to American in only 10 months.

The Trump Administration is playing the role as America's Greatest Enemy, backed up by his devotion to Russian Agenda, and he willingly has pushed ahead with a dire focus on getting money and tax breaks.... nothing else matters to him, he will tell any lie and attack anything to try and get means to not pay taxes and to gain access to underworld dark money. He has a constituency that will accept any lie, and chase any fiction, and blind themselves to the demise of America that is being promoted by the Russian Operative better known as The Barbarian of Greed and Ignorance = "Trump".

The right wing narrative:

"America sucks and it's all your neighbors' fault! Hate them! Support us! We'll **** 'em off!"

And they call themselves "patriots."

Rational adults know better.

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Old 10-25-2017, 05:14 AM
 
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"Reckless, outrageous, and undignified behavior has become excused and countenanced as “telling it like it is,” when it is actually just reckless, outrageous, and undignified."

So absolutely true. Truer words could not have been uttered.
The man nailed it.
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Old 10-25-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Jeff Flake - Seriously - Who Cares!?
tRump, more than anyone else.

The GOP, also.

You're free to dismiss it.

Carry on.

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Old 10-25-2017, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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To hot in the kitchen so he goes all snowflake....not understanding the times we live in. See ya.

We don't need no stinking' badges.
agree; he has a right to his opinion; doesn't agree with Trump, so what but he is a whiner and a loser in my book. He won't be missed I do not think.
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