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In what world does research and investigate equal fund and create propaganda to make false allegations against an opponent ?
And Donald Trump personally telling everyone "Obama was born in Kenya" was some pretty wild propaganda and false allegations as well. And Donald Trump publicly calling Hillary Clinton "Crooked Hilary" and Trump starting crowds chanting "lock her up" was some more wild propaganda. (Why can't we just say politics is a dirty game coming from both sides.)
And I wonder why Fox news is pumping out this Hillary/DNC propaganda now, is it to shift attention away from official Trump investigations or is it to take attention away from any discussion about the Trump tax cuts?
Thing is the whole thing is Not made up, you know that right?
We shall see how it all turns out, not good for the Nation either way.
On That (in bold) we agree 100%
I am glad you agree on that point!
All we know so far is that Mueller is investigating Manafort, Flynn and Podesta in depth. Those 3 are probably going down and probably for things that happened before the 2016 campaign. The others being investigated who knows. We can speculate all day long. Saying for sure that Russia colluded with the Trump campaign is at best speculation at this point.
It appears the original FBI investigation into the Trump campaign started because they became aware of the so called Trump dossier. And that was paid for by Clinton and the DNC through a law firm of one of her campaign staff. And none of the dossier has been proven as fact. But this info was sent by the kremlin to the Cllinton campaign and DNC who paid in total $9 million and then spread to news agencies. That is collusion in a grand scale.
It appears that Russia was trying to damage the election process in 2016 and not benefit one candidate over another. When Clinton pulled way in front they did things to try to close the gap. But the dossier clearly shows they were not all in for Trump.
And Donald Trump personally telling everyone "Obama was born in Kenya" was some pretty wild propaganda and false allegations as well. And Donald Trump publicly calling Hillary Clinton "Crooked Hilary" and Trump starting crowds chanting "lock her up" was some more wild propaganda. (Why can't we just say politics is a dirty game coming from both sides.)
And I wonder why Fox news is pumping out this Hillary/DNC propaganda now, is it to shift attention away from official Trump investigations or is it to take attention away from any discussion about the Trump tax cuts?
Washington Post just broke the story ..... others picking it up fast.
This can only mean that something is about to break from DOJ or FBI.
WashPo is a paywall and they certainly don't get my money -- this is from the Daily Beast.
Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee reportedly funded research that led to the dossier on allegations connecting President Trump to Russia. According to The Washington Post, both entities funded the effort through October 2016. Fusion GPS conducted the research on behalf of the campaign and its counsel, Marc Elias. Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer, authored the dossier. On Saturday, Trump tweeted that the Justice Department should “immediately release who paid for it.â€
So they basically hired a private investigator? Unless I am misreading the word former.
So the democrats colluded with the Russians to get dirt on Donald Trump in order to influence the eleection but that's no big deal because it's just opposition research. They are accusing Trump of colluding with the Russians to dig up dirt on Hillary in order to influence the election but they can't prove it. Even a special counsel appointed specifically to prove it can't prove it so far. Even if they do manage to prove it, so what? No big deal...it's just opposition research.
So what is the point of Mueller's special counsel at this point? Can we just put this all behind us now? Can we stop it with all the impeachment and treason nonsense? Can we just accept that Trump won the election, let him get on with his presidency, and when the time comes concentrate on using the electoral process to remove him in 2020, if you can?
They didn't get dirt on trump...they paid for fake dirt and used that fake dossier to get a FISA warrant to wiretap his campaign, then used that fake dossier as the basis for Mueller investigation.
The dems have said that Russia was putting put fake syories/news in a smear campaign against clinton, but it was actually the dnc/hillary paying for a fake dossier to smear trump.
The Washington Post has the story. And they clearly are not in Trump's corner.
I turned on Fox news last night and they were blasting Hillary/Bill Clinton stuff, and I knew their followers would be talking about it in the forum so I came here to comment on it.
And they said lock her up because Clinton was under federal criminal investigation. That is not propaganda but the truth.
Was Obama being born in Kenya the truth? No
And was it un-honorable for Trump to spread that lie for years?
And Hillary Clinton lost the election, for how long are republicans going to focus on past presidential candidate Hillary Clinton like this?
But if you have evidence that Hillary did something post it. But this thread is about a private instigation that republicans themselves started (and republicans are attacking Hillary and the DNC for a investigation started by republicans.)
Pizza Gate all over again another fake story to deflect away from Trump committing treason and the Russian scandal. Republicans Clinton lost and election was just about a year ago . Trump has committed treason 2 time and broken the law like 4 or 5 times while being president in the near future he will be impeached and maybe in prison too.
Pizza Gate all over again another fake story to deflect away from Trump committing treason and the Russian scandal. Republicans Clinton lost and election was just about a year ago . Trump has committed treason 2 time and broken the law like 4 or 5 times while being president in the near future he will be impeached and maybe in prison too.
I guess the Washington Post is trying to deflect things away from Trump. Sure.
Pizza Gate all over again another fake story to deflect away from Trump committing treason and the Russian scandal. Republicans Clinton lost and election was just about a year ago . Trump has committed treason 2 time and broken the law like 4 or 5 times while being president in the near future he will be impeached and maybe in prison too.
Treason....you have no clue what treason even is....with statements like this...
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. Trump has committed treason 2 time and broken the law like 4 or 5 times while being president in the near future he will be impeached and maybe in prison too.
