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Old 11-06-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Ok. Proves nothing. Perhaps given an infinite amount of time, the same exact earth we be created an infinite amount of times.

Because you think that’s reason enough?

Sounds as though you are backed into a corner of wanting me to believe just because you say I should.
As I suspected.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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What’s your proof that earth is special?
Well this is easy...just compare Earth to any other planet in our Solar System.

Earth has liquid water, plate tectonics, and an atmosphere that shelters it from the worst of the sun's rays.

It is unique among planets in our solar system for having water in its liquid form at the surface, in an amount conducive to life evolving.

We have a moon that stabilizes Earths rotation and helps pulls the ocean's tides.

We are a Goldilocks planet. No other planet in our Solar System can support life as we see here on Earth.

Heck I find it a interesting planet simply from the creatures that have walked on this Earth Millions of years ago.

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"The most impressive attribute of the Earth is the existence and amount of liquid water on its surface," said Geoffrey Marcy, an astronomer at the University of California, Berkeley who has helped discover dozens of extrasolar planets. No one knows why Earth has the exact amount of water it does, which is relatively small considering that water molecules outnumber silicate molecules in the galaxy, he said.
Now compare this to the nearly 300 new worlds glimpsed elsewhere in the galaxy, most are "hot Jupiters" that orbit close to their stars, where life and liquid water are unlikely to exist.

All of these features make Earth special among known planets near and far.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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Can you provide examples?
Examples, as in plural? Of course not.

We are certain that we can observe one universe - it's pretty much in the name. That's the example we have to go on.
We are pretty certain there's a link between space, time, matter and energy - that's mostly thanks to Einstein, of course, and people have been trying their damndest to prove him wrong, so far without much success.
The universe we observe behaves in specific ways - it's expanding over time, gravity works (did y'all know we just got proper evidence of the speed of gravity with good precision? It's c, predictably, but still cool that we have people checking that it's so), time behaves differently dependent on the relative velocity of the observers, etc. etc.

So when we try to run the clock back towards the moments where the universe started to expand and do the math, conditions get strange with regards to the entire time/space thing. So either there's an entirely different set of natural laws that only pop up close to a universe creation event, or we'll have to deal with the fact that time and matter behaves weird when things get really small or move really fast.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Apparently they can survive anywhere from the Savannah to the streets of Manhattan.
Come on, now. Who created the streets of Manhattan? Is it possible humans build environments that are geared for humans to survive in?
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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Well this is easy...just compare Earth to any other planet in our Solar System.

Earth has liquid water, plate tectonics, and an atmosphere that shelters it from the worst of the sun's rays.

It is unique among planets in our solar system for having water in its liquid form at the surface, in an amount conducive to life evolving.

We have a moon that stabilizes Earths rotation and helps pulls the ocean's tides.

We are a Goldilocks planet. No other planet in our Solar System can support life as we see here on Earth.

Heck I find it a interesting planet simply from the creatures that have walked on this Earth Millions of years ago.



All of these features make Earth special among known planets near and far.
None of this is proof that the earth is special.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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Come on, now. Who created the streets of Manhattan? Is it possible humans build environments that are geared for humans to survive in?
It is and our minds can quickly adapt despite those environments being complete opposites.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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None of this is proof that the earth is special.
Sure it does.

See why I don't want to waste my time with your Creationist tactics? You are not interested in a discussion...you are just interested in promoting your opinions that hold no merit.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Sure it does.
Opinion noted.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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Opinion noted.
LOL I listed facts...you can't deny facts. Creationists play that game all the time...they are the Master's of fact denial.

Which Creationist camp are you affiliated with?
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Old 11-06-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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LOL I listed facts...you can't deny facts. Creationists play that game all the time...they are the Master's of fact denial.

Which Creationist camp are you affiliated with?
You did list facts, but those facts don’t prove earth is special. Why is that hard to understand?
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