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Old 10-26-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Point out where I said it should taken down.



Then why are you arguing then ? Plus, that particular post you quoted is not directed at you, by the way.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Then why are you arguing then ? Plus, that particular post you quoted is not directed at you, by the way.
Somehow, you've missed it repeatedly.

Christians should be happy to take over maintenance of their christian monument after so many years of taxpayer support.

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Old 10-26-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Somehow, you've missed it repeatedly.

Christians should be happy to take over maintenance of their christian monument after so many years of taxpayer support.

Maybe you just want to argue for no reasons? I have no idea.

I have said all I want to say, anyway. shrug.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb christian monuments = christian repsonsibility

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Maybe you just want to argue for no reasons? I have no idea.

I have said all I want to say, anyway. shrug.
Not for no reason.

One of the two of us kept ignoring the point made over and over by the other, is all.

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Old 10-26-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Not for no reason.

One of the two of us kept ignoring the point made over and over by the other, is all.

Or maybe both of us? At least I am not afraid to speak the obvious.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:52 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled a cross, in place for 100 years, is now unconstitutional. It is......... well, shaped like a cross and is maintained (flowers and landscaping by teh city government) . And it recognizes sacrifices made in WW1.
If it's meant to recognize sacrifices made in any war it should include religious symbols representing those of every religion who made sacrifices.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:53 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It is always The Left who wants these types of symbols removed. The Left brings law suits and forces everyone in their way to stand aside and let The Left decide what symbols and traditions should be honored.

The American Humanist Association is the culprit in this case. A visit to their website clearly states that they are anti-God, not just anti-Christian.
Why should this be accepted as an American standard? It never was before.

Anti God?! Our country should not travel this road. Let some other country try that.
https://americanhumanist.org/about/
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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If it's meant to recognize sacrifices made in any war it should include religious symbols representing those of every religion who made sacrifices.
Granted. I accept that. Good idea, going forward.

But the American Humanist Association would object to that, too. They want no religious symbols at all. Anywhere.

What do you think about that idea?
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If it's meant to recognize sacrifices made in any war it should include religious symbols representing those of every religion who made sacrifices.
Or better yet, no religion at all.

We have never fought a religious war so far. There was never a need for the cross at all.

I think it should be donated to a local church with a historical plaque attached, and a new monument made to honor the valiant fallen of the distant past that's much better fitting than the cross ever was.

A big V (for valor, or for victory) wouldn't be any harder to build than a cross.
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Old 10-26-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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BOLD: They shouldn't. NO ONE is saying they should be the ONLY one who got the credit.

I assume MOST war dead back then (ww1) were Christians and they chose burial accordingly. That is all.

Muslims, Jews can certainly have their own monuments. This is a separate issue.

We cannot say "Oh, since other soldiers don't have this type of monument, let's get rid of the Christian ones."

This is not fairness to me.

The monument is for the war dead, that is all. My friend who was killed in action was a Christian, we remember him as a war dead a war hero, not a Christian Marine, although there is a cross there. Not sure why is this such a YUGE deal!

I think it is just petty if one gets all worked up over a cross.
Its not getting worked up, I personally don't care but i know about the separation of church and state and if you ask my opinion and i had to choose yay or nay it would be nay. Most liberals i know feel the same way.
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