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Old 10-28-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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Trump and Trumpism/Bannonism is a threat to our democracy because, at its core, it is all based on destruction and anarchy. Trumpism is based on a mishmash of discredited and contradictory philosophies. Love of money, hatred of trade; Nationalism based on division; a self-professed working class party that seeks to make the rich richer off the backs of the working class; a party that says it is a pro-middle class party-than seeks tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the middle class, an orwellian party that lies are truth and truth lies,

and above all:

A faux conservative party that seeks not to restore tradition but to destroy it; not to build up America but see it in ruins.

Yes..the Trump/Bannon faction is fraud at its best.
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7 years? Bahahahahaha! The great pumpkin won't last two years. He is a threat to democracy and his days are numbered. He'll be lucky not to die in jail.
so you guys on the left think trump is a threat to our republic(the correct term for our system of government), but lets look at a little reality here shall we?

obama governed by executive order, instead of trying to push his agenda through congress, many of which were unconstitutional, like DACA, obamacare subsidies to the insurance companies, among others.

trump on the other hand has rescinded those unconstitutional orders, and that has upset the billionaires wanting to get rich off your money. trump has also put the ball back in congresses court for THEM to do something about these things, because that is where they belong.

obama pushed tax INCREASES for everyone, trump is pushing tax DECREASES for the middle class.

obama INCREASED regulations on business, trump is DECREASING them.

the economy under obama grew at a tepid rate of just over 1% per year, so fr under trump the economy grew at 3%.

the only thing trump is a threat to is the power of the elected officials to bully the people instead of serve them as they should.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:03 PM
 
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So now billionaire hedge fund managers are the good guys?
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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So now billionaire hedge fund managers are the good guys?
hey according to democrats the russians were good, then bad, and now are good again as long as they support democrats. same with islamofascists, aka terrorists.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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Trump and Trumpism/Bannonism is a threat to our democracy because, at its core, it is all based on destruction and anarchy. Trumpism is based on a mishmash of discredited and contradictory philosophies. Love of money, hatred of trade; Nationalism based on division; a self-professed working class party that seeks to make the rich richer off the backs of the working class; a party that says it is a pro-middle class party-than seeks tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the middle class, an orwellian party that lies are truth and truth lies,

and above all:

A faux conservative party that seeks not to restore tradition but to destroy it; not to build up America but see it in ruins.

Yes..the Trump/Bannon faction is fraud at its best.
great post , hits it right on the head.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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so you guys on the left think trump is a threat to our republic(the correct term for our system of government), but lets look at a little reality here shall we?

obama governed by executive order, instead of trying to push his agenda through congress, many of which were unconstitutional, like DACA, obamacare subsidies to the insurance companies, among others.

trump on the other hand has rescinded those unconstitutional orders, and that has upset the billionaires wanting to get rich off your money. trump has also put the ball back in congresses court for THEM to do something about these things, because that is where they belong.

obama pushed tax INCREASES for everyone, trump is pushing tax DECREASES for the middle class.

obama INCREASED regulations on business, trump is DECREASING them.

the economy under obama grew at a tepid rate of just over 1% per year, so fr under trump the economy grew at 3%.

the only thing trump is a threat to is the power of the elected officials to bully the people instead of serve them as they should.
Oh bs. obama took over during the WORST RECESSION of YOU life, my life and most anyone alive.

The great recession was caused by BUSH. he allowed the banking industry to run wild and almost completely unfettered. They destroyed our economy and Obama saved it.

it is super simple. GOP screwed up bigger than any party since the great depression. the disaster took most of Obama's 2 terms to fix and there is still work to be done.

But instead of fixing it, trump is bringing back. Trump is a fool who is simply slashing taxes for the wealthy.

While we have not seen the full plan what we have seen is clearly a plan for the uber rich. You really need to stop listen and learn. Instead of posting here or watching TV. GO READ THE plan , go look at what it says and what it would do. it certainly will not make you a cent unless you are up over at least 250k pa.

If you think i am wrong you just have not really read and reviewed the plan.. Instead you listened to a tv and just believed it.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:56 PM
 
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7 years? Bahahahahaha! The great pumpkin won't last two years. He is a threat to democracy and his days are numbered. He'll be lucky not to die in jail.
Oh please.. He'll last another 3 years, but he's not even close to a threat to democracy nor will he die in jail. you guys and your hyper bold..
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:56 PM
 
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hey according to democrats the russians were good, then bad, and now are good again as long as they support democrats. same with islamofascists, aka terrorists.
nope you just made that up. Putin is a gangster and most americans have known that for at least 5-15 years.

stop trying to rewrite history and stop making up nonsense to try to make others look bad. my guess is you are foxing too many hours a day..
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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The funny thing is Trump and Sanders, really have very similar ideology, but yet their supporters hate each other...

its really quite odd
One of the 2 is an extremely vulgar man. Sander`s supporters would never mock the handicapped or trash our POWs, just for starters.
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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Oh bs. obama took over during the WORST RECESSION of YOU life, my life and most anyone alive.

The great recession was caused by BUSH. he allowed the banking industry to run wild and almost completely unfettered. They destroyed our economy and Obama saved it.
really? so forget the fact that carter signed the community reinvestment act into law in 1977, which started the whole sub prime mortgage market, but it was reigned in by glass-steagle. then clinton pushed the repeal of glass-steagle which the republicans obliged, and then clinton pushed for teeth in the CRA which got the whole sub prime market going really hot and heavy, and fannie mae and freddie mac were pushing sub prime loans and bundling them and selling off the pieces, and that propped up the economy after the tech bubble popped. and then bush43 tried THIRTEEN TIMES to get congress to reign in fannie mae and freddie mac, and who was it that stopped that effort? thats right, chris dodd and barney frank, both of whom went on the record saying constantly that there was nothing wrong with fannie mae and freddie mac. boy were they wrong. and in 2007 the democrats had the opportunity to reign in fannie mae and freddie mac, but they chose not to.

if any one is trying to rewrite history its you. in the end BOTH parties had a hand in the crash of 2008, but democrats stymied the effort to stop the problem as late as 2007. and by the way, i knew there was going to be a problem in the late 90s when the banks started offering interest payment only loans, with a balloon payment after ten years to cover the principle of the loan not paid in that time.

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nope you just made that up. Putin is a gangster and most americans have known that for at least 5-15 years.

stop trying to rewrite history and stop making up nonsense to try to make others look bad. my guess is you are foxing too many hours a day..
once again russia was an issue in the 2012 elections, and romney called it when he said that russia was americas greatest geopolitical foe, and obama said he was wrong.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5028810.html

however, reality check here romney was right then, and he is still right now;

Romney was right about Russia (Opinion) - CNN

so once again YOU are rewriting history here not me. in 2012 the democrats said russia was our friend, then when the 2016 campaign rolled around suddenly russia was our enemy again, and its the democrats pushing that meme, not republicans.
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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One of the 2 is an extremely vulgar man. Sander`s supporters would never mock the handicapped or trash our POWs, just for starters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/u...rs-nevada.html
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