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Old 10-30-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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One thing i notice is every 25 or 50 years, the narrative towards blacks changes, but it’s still linked to the notion of black inferiority.
Yep. Its constantly refined. Updated for every era.

 
Old 10-30-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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One thing i notice is every 25 or 50 years, the narrative towards blacks changes, but it’s still linked to the notion of black inferiority.


This is true of just about everything. The topic of black incarceration is very complex with many influences in the environment and economic situation in various communities. Then you add the peculiar nature of the criminal justice system and all the different players. We need new and better measures other than the obvious notation of the degree of melanin for people as they walk into jail.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Ok the disintegration of Black families contributes to social problems but what caused the disintegration of Black families??
Welfare, which went to minorities at a much higher percentage. Why work for money when you can get it to not work? That's human nature.
So now the reliance on government. No need to rely on friends or family or be responsible. One can just get free money.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Except for one thing. Even Blacks with college degrees have higher unemployment rates than Whites with college degrees. Affirmative action can work in getting a Black person into college. However, it won't guarantee a job, because women can also qualify for affirmative action. I had the "pleasure" of going to the GA Dept of Labor to file for unemployment insurance. There were certainly Blacks working there. However, I noticed something. The majority of Black people filing for unemployment were men. Majority of Blacks who were working at the office were women. Black men seem to have a hard time getting work, even when adjusting for qualifications.
Of course AA discriminates in the favor of blacks including men. Because it doesn't help them as much as women means to discount it? That's what you're saying. Otherwise why bring it up? Everyone who can, should earn their way in life and they need to do it without continuous handouts and favoratism.

As far as college degreed blacks UE rate being higher, compare apples to apples. This is the same thing we heard about women working for less pay until it was outed in some cities women earn more because someone had the honesty to compare single men without children to single women without children, which took out a huge variable. But why compare apples to apples when one can falsely play the race card?

We know the 3 factors to success in life. Get a HS degree, work full time, and dont get married and have kids until you're 21. Do that and one will have a 75 percent chance of being middle class or higher.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Can we stop trying to compare people that arrived in America not in shackles to blacks? Jews received reparations. Jews had a place, America, that they could go to and be away from their oppessors. Jews and Italians came to the US and joined whiteness. And if you want to bring up Italians, they were and still are the face of organized CRIME. But they were accepted into whiteness for the sake of numbers. People look at those Italian gangsters and mobsters like they were cool. Not like thugs. Many Europeans came to the U.S. after 1900, got on welfare, and became what we know now as the middle class. They told their kids and grandkids that they worked hard and bootstrapped, but really they were on welfare, got affordable loans for housing or land, and benefitted from many government socialist programs. All this stuff magically became bad once more blacks were allowed to benefit from it. And when blacks got on welfare, notice how all of a sudden they started requiring that no black men can live in a family household with black women.


I know that none of this matter to many of you because, with blacks you like to start history at 1970. Fine. But you're not going to play the "look at the Jews game". When you post just state that you're not looking at the full context of black American history. You're looking at snapshot just to attempt to make your argument look somewhat not bad.


Also...like I said before...when talking about crime yall say there's a black culture...when talking about cultural appropriation..."we all share culture...blacks don't have a culture...there's just American culture".
Can we stop comparing blacks today to those in chains hundreds of years ago? I know that none of this matter to many of you because, with blacks you like to lean on that crutch and falsely play the race card all the while ignoring the fact tha blacks are humans who accept handouts. Handouts doesn't teach people to better themselves, it teaches them to be wards of the state.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Law of socialization. Have they ever looked at the kids of adoptive parents who went to prison? What were the parents like? What kinds of kids did those kids hang around? I will give you an example. I have a childhood classmate I grew up with. We're both Black. I was a nerd, I was bullied and ostracized by the kids that he hung around with. They were the trailer park trash trash, the druggies, hood rat wannabes, the losers. Years later, he is addicted to drugs and drinks too much, has a child he hasn't seen in a while. I have no children, I've never been in trouble with the law, no drugs, I'm a light drink (I haven't had an alcoholic beverage since August). We grew up together, but he had a more dysfunctional family. I had issues, but my parents made sure I didn't hang out with losers.

And the last I checked, the vast majority of middle class Blacks aren't responsible for violent crime. It's mostly coming from the poor and underclass. I haven't seen any evidence that middle class Blacks are responsible for more crime than middle class Whites. I see plenty of evidence of poor and underclass Blacks causing alot of problems. Show where genetics makes up the majority of the reason one would become a criminal.
it comes from people who aren't raised right. When you come from a single parent family, you have a far greater chance to fail.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Can we stop comparing blacks today to those in chains hundreds of years ago? I know that none of this matter to many of you because, with blacks you like to lean on that crutch and falsely play the race card all the while ignoring the fact tha blacks are humans who accept handouts. Handouts doesn't teach people to better themselves, it teaches them to be wards of the state.
We don't have to go back "hundreds of years" to find terrible systemic exploitation of minorities.

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Peonage, also called debt slavery or debt servitude, is a system where an employer compels a worker to pay off a debt with work. Legally, peonage was outlawed by Congress in 1867. However, after Reconstruction, many Southern black men were swept into peonage though different methods, and the system was not completely eradicated until the 1940s.
Slavery v. Peonage | Slavery By Another Name Bento | PBS

And while we have not fully abolished slavery in the United States, you can say it's more "equitable" in that anybody of any race or age can now legally be a slave as long as it is for a punishment for a crime per the 13th amendment of the Constitution.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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Can we stop comparing blacks today to those in chains hundreds of years ago? I know that none of this matter to many of you because, with blacks you like to lean on that crutch and falsely play the race card all the while ignoring the fact tha blacks are humans who accept handouts. Handouts doesn't teach people to better themselves, it teaches them to be wards of the state.
I personally laugh when I see comments like this. What amazes me is they think welfare was created specifically for black people. Lots of groups got “handouts” and “aid”.... “help” from Native Americans to Cuban Americans to Japanese-Americans. Yes, some Black people accept “handouts” just like other people. There’s this specific resentment when it happens to be black people, and the “other” that’s ingrained in American racism.

The black ghetto is obviously a product of racist policies, from housing, education, discrimination, etc. what you and others people don’t get. Welfare and “handouts” were NOT created for black people.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Again, focus on the person and the behavior and stop the silly labels. IMO often when this sort of discussion comes up, you are the first one to speak on "hoodrats" when you have never lived in a majority black, urban "ghetto" environment so you don't know what you are talking about when you label people a certain way.

And again, just by being black you will be labeled as such. So it is silly for you to perpetuate that label of your own self.

I don't call poor whites "rednecks" either FWIW. I know a lot of poor whites who lived in cities and more rural environments. They are people and no one fits any specific stereotype 100%.
I don't really understand the need for terms like "hood rat" or "redneck." If someone's behaving that badly, just use the nice, all-purpose, racially neutral term "a-hole," and be done with it.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 07:57 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Ok the disintegration of Black families contributes to social problems but what caused the disintegration of Black families??
Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. Tossing out the Black father and encouraging out of wedlock births.
Bottom line: Democrat social schemes keep 'em poor, pregnant and dependant.
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