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Old 10-31-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Show me which law denies FEMA the authority to help them find a reputable company to do the work. Stop with the silly personal jabs. They do not make you look any smarter.
There is no law as FEMA does bid out work, but they are usually not an agency that does solicitations for other state or territorial governments. They mostly provide guidance and money and the agency/state/territorial government is tasked with following federal guidelines to bid out the work themselves since it is federal money.

 
Old 10-31-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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Which law denies then the ability to help them find a company?

Says who? FEMA is currently searching for contractors to work in PR. Which law are they violating?

Would you like to apply to be a FEMA contractor? https://www.unitedstatesbusinessregi...fema-disaster/

Stop making stuff up.
This is not a real government solicitation website.

It mentions this at the bottom and is lying about them hosting the SAM system (System for Award Management).

SAM has its own, government run website where vendors can register and contracting officers can check the status of vendors (to see if they are able to do business with the goverment) at www.sam.gov
 
Old 10-31-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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There is no law as FEMA does bid out work, but they are usually not an agency that does solicitations for other state or territorial governments. They mostly provide guidance and money and the agency/state/territorial government is tasked with following federal guidelines to bid out the work themselves since it is federal money.
The claim here is that they are not authorized to help in the process, so I told them it is not the case.

If the stuff is not getting done, why can't they roll up their sleeves and help get it done? There is no law against it, and money is NOT the only kind of assistance they can offer.

This is what the former FEMA Administrator said:
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“Today, FEMA has the authority necessary to lean forward and leverage the entire emergency management team in response and recovery efforts,” said FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate.
Why can't the new guy have the same "get it done" attitude? What kind of slacker did they put in charge who can only say "No, no, we can't help. We have no authority. We can only pay". They report to Trump, so if he changed the guidelines and stripped them of the authority, then the buck stops at his desk.

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Old 10-31-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This is not a real government solicitation website.

It mentions this at the bottom and is lying about them hosting the SAM system (System for Award Management).

SAM has its own, government run website where vendors can register and contracting officers can check the status of vendors (to see if they are able to do business with the goverment) at www.sam.gov
I ran into it with Google, so I don't know. So, is there or is there not, a law which prohibits FEMA from helping in the process?
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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On these, what makes you all think that the mutual aid agreement parties wanted upfront money....

Those agreements do not require a down payment or any upfront money. Everyone knew/knows that PR would be getting FEMA disaster relief to help repair the island and so calling in the mutual aid agreement parties was the best, cheapest, and quickest option. I have worked in this field and know how mutual aid agreements work.

Also, filing bankruptcy doesn't mean that the organization has no money at all.
From articles I read prepa states contractors were reluctant to work under (sign contracts) the mutual aid agreement as well a couple of representative of contractors voiced concerns over pay and other issues with housing, food, insurance coverage. Whitefish was apparently johnny on the spot.
Maybe its all lies from PREPA, IDK, but thats what has been stated in articles I have read thus far.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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That link doesn't say there was a bid or RFP. Competing doesn't imply a solicitation was issued PREPA could have just been contacted by vendors who wanted to do the work.

Agree, whether a solicitation was put out or not, they were still more than 1 company "wanting" to do the work.

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I remember another source in the other thread that said that Whitefish won an RFP initially for consulting duties related to hurricane Irma and not repair work for Hurricane Maria.

Will note like I did on the other link that the head of PREPA IMO is the one who caused all these issues as he should never have given them the contract. He probably doesn't have any supply chain, sourcing, or procurement experience. Most executives don't at federal agencies and various others and because of it, they make silly demands on their staff which end up causing them to look bad since they don't like to take advice from people who work in the field.

Agreed also, not 100% sure how it works in PREPA, but the head of PERPA probably just followed what their people stated. Again, just going on how it works on this governments side. Could have been different in this situation...


You have a very few contracting officer, but many contracting specialists....the contracting specialist rarely ever signs the actual contract, the contracting officer makes it official, what the contracting specialist wrote...
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Eyyyy' I wasn't the only one who thought it was reckless to give a multi hundred million dollar project to a 2 year old start up that had not handled anything remotely of the same scale! Who woulda' guessed!
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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They haven't chosen to stop it. Elon Musk is helping them. They just chose not to use a criminal crony of the Trump administration to fail at doing anything in exchange for $300 million.
I didn't believe the Whitefish owner for one minute when he said he got the contract via Linked In. It has Ryan Zinke written all over it.


Drain the damn swamp already. Stop adding to it.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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I didn't believe the Whitefish owner for one minute when he said he got the contract via Linked In. It has Ryan Zinke written all over it.


Drain the damn swamp already. Stop adding to it.

Link....
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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Link....
Have I got a good news for you. You are going to be so amazed at this.

All I did was go to Google.com and typed in "Whitefish contract LinkedIn" and up popped all sorts of links.

It's true. Here's the first one.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pu...h-hunt-n815356

Here's another one.

"But questions about precisely how the contract was procured, and whether the company has any ties to another Whitefish native, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, are now the subject of multiple investigations, including two by Congress and another by the Federal Emergency Management Administration."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/27/whit...erto-rico.html

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