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LovesToRow is absolutely right that the charges against Manafort and Gates have nothing to do with any purported Trump/Russia collusion.
But then there's that guilty plea by George Papadopoulus, which is all about Russian government attempts to gain access to the Trump campaign staff and share intel with them to prevent HRC from becoming POTUS.
Manafort/Gates is about how corrupt/incompetent Trump and his inner ring are.
Papadopoulus is about how Russia tried to get into bed with the Trump campaign, and how willing/eager some Trump officials were to throw back the bed cover and invite them in.
Face it - this is not a good day for Team Trump.
We found out last week that the Clinton campaign paid millions to Russian government officials to create dirt against Trump, in order to manipulate the election. Sort of makes this look like child's play, no?
The indictment of Manafort does NOTHING to prove what the Democrats have been claiming all along. The wingnuts on the left don't understand that though. They will believe anything the DNC claims, including something as ridiculous as "A YouTube video caused a preplanned terrorist attack."
Yes, the Russian collusion story has come right back into Hillary, and the democrats, and all the rats are scrambling to cover it with indictments that have nothing to do with Trump.
Mueller knew the calls for him to step down were getting louder, and were getting hard to ignore, and so he desperately is trying to keep his witch hunt alive.
Hmm, so the grand jury was made up of Hillary and the Dems? Interesting.
Oh, we all realize that the Clinton/DNC/Russian collusion was an orchestrated effort to distract from the upcoming indictments. What, you don't think that Mueller doesn't provide reports back to Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein on the status of his investigations? You don't think that Sessions doesn't go running to President Trump with updates? Ask yourself why Donald Trump is panicking on Twitter - and why he dispatched his son-in-law Jared out of the country, to his buddies in Saudi Arabia, when he caught wind of possible indictments.
Manafort was a slam dunk. Gates was just an add-on to Manafort. And the Trump family looks like doofuses for hiring a crook for to run Donald Trump's campaign.
Flynn is also gonna be a slam dunk.
Papadopoulus came out of left field and has been the most damning...did you really see that guilty plea coming?
Team Mueller isn't done. He's still holding more indictments back.
Right now, Mueller's turning up the pressure, seeing who is going to crack.
And all the President's men may choose to fall on their swords and nothing else comes of all of this.
Let's all sit back and watch. The next month is going to be interesting...
The Clinton/DNC/Russian collusion scandal is real and the reason it came up last week is because of the newly released FBI documents. We know factually the Clinton campaign paid Russian agents millions to conjur up the 'dossier' to smear Trump and influence the campaign. Same with the parallel Clinton/DNC/Uranium One scandal. Mueller knows he's going to be investigated in that one and as calls for his recusal get louder, he needed to get this first indictment out ASAP to take the heat off & create a diversion. He even released it on a Friday, the classic calling card of political propaganda.
I agree Trump does look like a fool for having hired Manafort. But to be fair, all the major campaigns look foolish for the hiring of their campaign managers. Hillary's campaign manager John Podesta is eyes deep in Ukrainian lobbying/influence peddling, failed to file FARA, lied about his financial interests, fell for a simple phishing scam that compromised Hillarey's campaign & was caught colluding to fix the primary for Hillary. Bernie Sanders' campaign manager Tad Devine, worked with Manafort on behalf of Ukraine simultaneously & is eyes deep as well. Foreign influence peddling/lobbying is commonplace in DC. Failing to file FARA is standard operating procedure. These have never been considered problems in DC up to this point.
The indictment of Manafort does NOTHING to prove what the Democrats have been claiming all along. The wingnuts on the left don't understand that though. They will believe anything the DNC claims, including something as ridiculous as "A YouTube video caused a preplanned terrorist attack."
It may. Or it may not.
Manafort was Trump's partner back in the early 90s, when Trump went broke with his casino and lost all his credit lines with his bankers.
It's long been rumored that Trump's financial come-back came from laundering money for the oligarchs that were plundering Russia after the Soviet collapse.
Building big hotels that are never finished is a real good way of money laundering. Taking 1/3 to 1/2 the cash that can't be moved as a fee was better for those Russians than possessing truckloads of cash they could not spend at all.
And Manafort was thought to be the grease that let Trump's wheels roll. After their partnership broke up, Trump was stuffed with cash, and Manafort became a Russian lobbyist.
Manafort would know where all the skeletons are buried, and is charged with laundering $18 million dollars. Over $75 million dollars was moved in total.
If there is any truth in the suspicions, Trump has plenty of reasons to worry. Manafort, who could face 50 years in prison, could give him up in a plea deal.
Today is no different than yesterday, or last week.
We all knew Mueller was going to indict someone to justify his probe, and the millions of dollars being spent.
The timing of these indictments says all we need to know, Mueller is desperately trying to divert the Clinton, DNC collusion with the Russians.
Rubbish that is like you mom getting sick, and you saying, "it does not matter we all knew she would get sick someday"
as to the timing, lol, Team Trump fired every gun they could find last week. Dragging up the old uranium story, and everything else they could come up with. People were saying all week Mueller is about to do something big.
You guys tipped your hands like fish at a poker table. You guys did not even try to hide it, it was rushed clumsy and obvious.
We found out last week that the Clinton campaign paid millions to Russian government officials to create dirt against Trump, in order to manipulate the election. Sort of makes this look like child's play, no?
Lots of bunk. A right leaning organization started the Trump dossier investigation. Clinton got involved after the fact. The research group involved a former British intelligence officer that did the investigation and used some Russia contacts for information. The Clinton campaign never paid the Russians and never ended up using the findings of the dossier. The Russians for their part never took direct actions in the election (like via Facebook and Twitter) to help the Clinton campaign. Your post is just another right fantasy storyline direct from Fox.
Well, there is actual evidence of Clinton, and DNC collusion with the Russians, and despite over a year of looking, still no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
Ohhh, another deflection?
There's no actual evidence...there's a lot of innuendo though. It might have flown better if you all hadn't tried to tie in the Uranium situation and made it totally farcical.
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Question for you, are we going to see indictments from Mueller for the Podesta Group, who did the same exact thing that Manafort did?
The Special Prosectuor (Robert S. Mueller III) is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B Comey in testimony...including (i) any links between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, (ii) and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation...
See anything in Team Mueller's mandate to chase down distractions being spun out of the White House? Mueller can't file charges against Podesta unless either he or his consulting group worked on Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.
And if the charges against Tom Podesta are real, what's stopping Trump's AG from appointing another special prosecutor to investigate the allegations against Tom Podesta and the Podesta Group? What's stopping AG Sessions from launching his own investigation?
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