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Old 11-27-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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Some elderly folks could be skipping meals if state budget cuts continue | KTUL

https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datas...018summary.odn

What a tragedy that while poor families get huge $6,200 tax credits, up to $50,000 a year in housing assistance and tremendous amounts of WIC and EBT that America's senior-citizens are starving.

Would be nice if the Republicans would eliminate the safety-net for families who don't have disabled children.

I think it is okay to have good safety-net for physically disabled children, but it is tremendously sad that while these families have baby after baby and pregnant on a yearly basis for more money that so many senior-citizens are starving.
I think you ought to look up the definition of the word "stereotype". Maybe you would come to understand that rather than repeating truths, you are repeating a series of cliches and stereotypes that little basis in reality.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Welfare families living in lavish luxury? That's one of the craziest things I've seen on C-D ever.

You should come to NY.

Let's see... Here are a FEW that come to mind, not including the EITC: generous housing allowance, monthly cash benefit (which can accrue from month to month, without affecting benefits), food stamps, Medicaid (which, here, includes dental--including bridges, crowns, and braces), transportation to medical appointments, baby care programs, educational grants, monthly heating and A/C HEAP allowance...oh, and when the power went out for a week last winter they got "reimbursed" for whatever food they claimed that they lost. Everyone else was SOL.

Lavish? Maybe not. But it's a fact that those on assistance are afforded a middle-class lifestyle with ease.
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Old 11-27-2017, 10:02 PM
 
Location: My House
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You should come to NY.

Let's see... Here are a FEW that come to mind, not including the EITC: generous housing allowance, monthly cash benefit (which can accrue from month to month, without affecting benefits), food stamps, Medicaid (which, here, includes dental--including bridges, crowns, and braces), transportation to medical appointments, baby care programs, educational grants, monthly heating and A/C HEAP allowance...oh, and when the power went out for a week last winter they got "reimbursed" for whatever food they claimed that they lost. Everyone else was SOL.

Lavish? Maybe not. But it's a fact that those on assistance are afforded a middle-class lifestyle with ease.
No way that's a middle class lifestyle.

Middle class is supporting yourself because you have a good job with some sort of money for healthcare and/or healthcare provided by your employer. Middle class people have some way of providing food and childcare for their kids, either by having a parent stay home while the other works or having daycare options they can afford (including family who can babysit as a possible option).

Middle class people usually don't make enough that their kids cannot still get grants to go to college.

Middle class people can afford their electric bills without assistance.

Middle class people usually have transport or can afford public transport.

In short, the reason those people are on assistance is that they cannot afford any of these things without assistance.

And, having to live on assistance is demeaning and nobody CHOOSES IT. It's just them taking the help if they need help, so their kids won't have to do without basic necessities and care.

It's not remotely a "middle class lifestyle."

It's "a lifestyle that keeps them fed and in a warm place to live, with reasonable level of medical care."

Why begrudge people that if they cannot do it for themselves for some portion of time?
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Old 11-28-2017, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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What I really want to know is, how can someone call him/herself "lovecrowds," when the fact is, they dislike cities and seem to hate almost everyone?
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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Why yes, and did you know there are some billionaire real estate guys who make tons of money and don't pay ANY income taxes ? I can cite one example, if you would like.
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Please tell me of this ...
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:05 AM
 
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No benefits for people on welfare who continue having more kids beyond two. Offer free tubal ligation and vasectomy.
Having 3 or 4 kids and lower income, gives them $8,000-$10,000 tax refund checks.
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Some elderly folks could be skipping meals if state budget cuts continue | KTUL

https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datas...018summary.odn

What a tragedy that while poor families get huge $6,200 tax credits, up to $50,000 a year in housing assistance and tremendous amounts of WIC and EBT that America's senior-citizens are starving.

Would be nice if the Republicans would eliminate the safety-net for families who don't have disabled children.

I think it is okay to have good safety-net for physically disabled children, but it is tremendously sad that while these families have baby after baby and pregnant on a yearly basis for more money that so many senior-citizens are starving.
The first paragraph from your link:
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TULSA, Okla. (KTUL) — Some of our most vulnerable neighbors in Tulsa could go hungry after even more cuts to state programs. As lawmakers work fast to try and fix the budget, budget cuts to nutrition programs are putting the elderly at risk.
So, you use this to pedal your own right-wing view that the solution is even more cuts. Wonderful.
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:12 AM
 
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Op You've obviously never been on welfare ,have never fallen on hard times and know no welfare families living in lavish luxury, you just mimic what rightwing sources like Limbaugh are telling you.
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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What a tragedy that while poor families get huge $6,200 tax credits, up to $50,000 a year in housing assistance and tremendous amounts of WIC and EBT that America's senior-citizens are starving.

I think it is okay to have good safety-net for physically disabled children, but it is tremendously sad that while these families have baby after baby and pregnant on a yearly basis for more money that so many senior-citizens are starving.
I completely agree with you, lovecrowds.

If only the rural, conservative poor would stop abusing the system and claiming disability and working the system in those blood-sucking southern red states that suck the federal assistance bone dry....
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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What I really want to know is, how can someone call him/herself "lovecrowds," when the fact is, they dislike cities and seem to hate almost everyone?
It seems to be an ironic name, like calling The Rock (Dwayne Johnson) tiny....
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