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Old 11-01-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: 89434
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1950s is looked back on as a golden age among many conservatives.
What's so bad about the 1950s? People had better work ethics, one could stay at a company and move up to a better pay or higher level position, one could afford a house and possibly raise a family on a modest income.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Conservatives believe men and women are expected to fill specific societal roles and deviation from those expected roles should not be tolerated.
Conservatives are more likely to believe one parent stays home to take care of the child while the other parent works. Why should one parent work and see a huge chunk of their income go toward child care costs when they would rather stay home?
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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What's so bad about the 1950s? People had better work ethics, one could stay at a company and move up to a better pay or higher level position, one could afford a house and possibly raise a family on a modest income.
You should know better. Yes, the '50s had certain advantages like a strong middle class and high upward mobility. It would be great to return to that. However, if you weren't white, straight, male, and Protestant, you might as well have been a second class citizen back then.

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Conservatives are more likely to believe one parent stays home to take care of the child while the other parent works. Why should one parent work and see a huge chunk of their income go toward child care costs when they would rather stay home?
It should be a woman's choice if she wants to be a stay at home mom. Conservatives want government policies that encourage it while disenfranchising women who do work. It's hard to believe its 2017, almost 2018, and we still have the kind of wage gap we do.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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So why is this issue such a big deal to conservatives?
I don't know if this is a "big deal" to conservatives in general, especially since, as someone else pointed out, "conservative" means something different depending on your location.

That said, some of these responses do answer your question about why some think of it as a big deal. Some don't understand the difference between sex and gender. Some are quick to jump to the conclusion that defiance of traditional gender roles indicates mental illness. Most of us can't relate to gender dysphoria. Those of us who are gay, bi, pan, etc. generally can't relate to it, either. I think it's such a unique human experience that is difficult to explain that many dismiss it as abnormal, rather than recognizing it as natural.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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I don't know if this is a "big deal" to conservatives in general, especially since, as someone else pointed out, "conservative" means something different depending on your location.

That said, some of these responses do answer your question about why some think of it as a big deal. Some don't understand the difference between sex and gender. Some are quick to jump to the conclusion that defiance of traditional gender roles indicates mental illness. Most of us can't relate to gender dysphoria. Those of us who are gay, bi, pan, etc. generally can't relate to it, either. I think it's such a unique human experience that is difficult to explain that many dismiss it as abnormal, rather than recognizing it as natural.
It's not natural lmao. It's a personality disorder that needs treatment
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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I don't know if this is a "big deal" to conservatives in general, especially since, as someone else pointed out, "conservative" means something different depending on your location.

That said, some of these responses do answer your question about why some think of it as a big deal. Some don't understand the difference between sex and gender. Some are quick to jump to the conclusion that defiance of traditional gender roles indicates mental illness. Most of us can't relate to gender dysphoria. Those of us who are gay, bi, pan, etc. generally can't relate to it, either. I think it's such a unique human experience that is difficult to explain that many dismiss it as abnormal, rather than recognizing it as natural.
Taking on traditional gender roles such as women, who become construction workers or men who become hairstylists or stay at home dads is one thing - that is taking on traditional gender roles.

Giving children hormones in an attempt to change their sex is something totally different and is clearly what we are discussing here. People with gender dysphoria are mentally ill and need treatment. It is not doing these people any justice by legitimizing this behavior, particularly for children.

This is the problem with the left today, they aren't able to differentiate between treating people equally and trying to make them equal. Legitimizing behavior which is unhealthy is not treating people equally, it's teaching them that there are no consequences for their behavior. Just take a look at how our society is now also legitimizing single parent households, which clearly lead to poverty and obesity, which is self explanatory. The list goes on and on.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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It's not natural lmao. It's a personality disorder that needs treatment
The only know treatment at this time is hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery. No amount of therapy to try to make one of these individuals live as their birth sex will do a damn bit of good.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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The only know treatment at this time is hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery. No amount of therapy to try to make one of these individuals live as their birth sex will do a damn bit of good.
That is pure nonsense leftist talking points you're parroting. Why do you people deny science?
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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Giving children hormones in an attempt to change their sex is something totally different and is clearly what we are discussing here. People with gender dysphoria are mentally ill and need treatment. It is not doing these people any justice by legitimizing this behavior, particularly for children.
No one is talking about having children undergo hormone therapy.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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It's not natural lmao. It's a personality disorder that needs treatment
You're just proving my point. You don't understand it, so it must be a disorder.
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