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Old 11-03-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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There are two ways one becomes "ultra rich." it's handed down to them or they earned it. The majority of one percenters are self made.
Or, you know, they could rob the general public and steal it.

I guess that counts as "earning it." Stealing from the general public is hard work I'm sure.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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Or, you know, they could rob the general public and steal it.

I guess that counts as "earning it." Stealing from the general public is hard work I'm sure.
Mark Zuckerberg is a one percentor. What did he steal?

Oprah Winfrey is a one percentor. What did she steal?

Steven Hawkins is a one percentor. What did he steal?

Ben Carson is a one percentor. What did he steal?

Michael Jordan is a one percenter. What did he steal?


And since you brought it up, stealing millions of dollars is harder than working an entry level job or sponging off the government. Yes, guys like Al Capone or the wolf of wall-street actually worked their tails off.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brrcl-9dA9c
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will side with the strong horse." -- Osama Bin Laden
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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The ultra-rich don't produce anything of value, they simply live off the fruits of others' labor. They feel entitled to your tax dollars, which subsidize their corporations and pay for their wars to get access to markets/resources. When they mess up and their corporations fail, the feel entitled to your tax dollars to pay for their bailouts.

It's time to stop these lazy free loaders from getting rich at our expense. Agree?
I applaud and congratulate the wealthy who earned it the old fashioned way: by building a business, hiring people and innovating products. What I despise are the wealthy who want money the easy way by "rent seeking." Economists define "rent seeking" as those who attempt to accumulate money by hiring lobbyists to go to Washington and get special tax treatments, loopholes, subsidies, etc. Rent seekers get money without contributing to the productive economy, it's literally rigging the system.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:03 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The ultra-rich don't produce anything of value, they simply live off the fruits of others' labor. They feel entitled to your tax dollars, which subsidize their corporations and pay for their wars to get access to markets/resources. When they mess up and their corporations fail, the feel entitled to your tax dollars to pay for their bailouts.

It's time to stop these lazy free loaders from getting rich at our expense. Agree?
Pretty easy to solve that problem if you think it is one. Simply stop voluntarily enriching them. Yes, I said voluntarily. Stop buying the goods/services produced/provided by the corporations in which they own equities, etc. Voilà... No more "ultra-rich."
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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The ultra-rich don't produce anything of value, they simply live off the fruits of others' labor. They feel entitled to your tax dollars, which subsidize their corporations and pay for their wars to get access to markets/resources. When they mess up and their corporations fail, the feel entitled to your tax dollars to pay for their bailouts.

It's time to stop these lazy free loaders from getting rich at our expense. Agree?
Agreed. All the deadbeats that live off the largesse of others need to be thrown off of the planet.....

Oh wait, that means liberals and poor people.

Ah well
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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I am fortunate to have lived a comfortable life. The only folks I know perosnally, that have used unemployment and medicaid are Republicans who have come into hard times. I don't begrudge them living in a 400K house, with three new cars in the driveway, the horse in the stable, etc. as they get what they can. I would be hard pressed to begrudge a single woman who has a few kids, works at Walmart and needs food stamps to get by.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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Mark Zuckerberg is a one percentor. What did he steal?

Oprah Winfrey is a one percentor. What did she steal?

Steven Hawkins is a one percentor. What did he steal?

Ben Carson is a one percentor. What did he steal?

Michael Jordan is a one percenter. What did he steal?


And since you brought it up, stealing millions of dollars is harder than working an entry level job or sponging off the government. Yes, guys like Al Capone or the wolf of wall-street actually worked their tails off.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brrcl-9dA9c
3 of those people are ultra-rich, 2 are not. One is Mark Zuckerberg who did in-fact steal his idea from a classmate.

I've never heard of "Stephen Hawkins", I assume you mean Stephen Hawking. He only has a net worth of ~$20 million. You couldn't even buy a private jet for that much.

But when I said "Steal" i was referring more to the financier/executive class, people who are largely unaccountable to their own shareholders. And those people do exist - you failed to mention them when describing the supposedly "two types of ultra rich."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoPq5AOCOA
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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You can buy a brand new private jet for under ten million. A good used one for a few million.

I am checking into it for myself.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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You can buy a brand new private jet for under ten million. A good used one for a few million.

I am checking into it for myself.
Maybe I wasn't specific enough but I'm talking like a full-size passenger jet like the big wigs have, like a 737 or 787 or something.

I'm not talking about some local rotarian with $20 million, the phrase here is ultra rich.
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