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Old 11-05-2017, 03:46 PM
 
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Actually Trump’s own cabinet hand picked Mueller, who is a Republican. Keep grasping at straws because the only thing “left” will be the convictions.
no he was appointed by the acting attorney general who was put in place by an OBAMA appointee.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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His pattern is to NAIL as much as possible, and then plea it down to get information on others..
Beg pardon, but is incorrect. His pattern is to build a strong case in a field like economic crime where amassing evidence in the form of paperwork makes a conviction alomst certain. That's the leverage he uses to get information. He does not lead with his most serious charge, because that would be stupid. And he's not. He leads with the most certain one.

I still have no idea how "fake charges" fit in, but you do you.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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no he was appointed by the acting attorney general who was put in place by an OBAMA appointee.
President Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on January 31, 2017. Rosenstein was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 25, 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Rosenstein


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Old 11-05-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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Beg pardon, but is incorrect. His pattern is to build a strong case in a field like economic crime where amassing evidence in the form of paperwork makes a conviction alomst certain. That's the leverage he uses to get information. He does not lead with his most serious charge, because that would be stupid. And he's not. He leads with the most certain one.

I still have no idea how "fake charges" fit in, but you do you.
nail as much as possible and build a strong case is exactly the same..
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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Having extras come in handy if you have to leave the country in a hurry.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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If Manafort is guilty of the crimes he's accused of committing, lock him the hell up. I do find it funny, however, that of the indictments handed down, none of them have anything to do with "collision"

We've been saying all along that this is nothing more than a fishing expedition. Had their been any evidence of collision/law-breaking in that regard, trust that those indictments would've been the first handed down. Note, it is particularly disturbing that the entire basis of this phony investigation came from a trumped up investigation funded by the Dims/Crooked Hillary (which they broke the law to conceal by not listing the multi-million dollar expenditure on campaign finance filings) that included actual collision with foreign agents to (guess what?) influence the election in Crooked Hillary's favor. The irony is too much for many leftists to handle, so they conveniently ignore this bombshell.
Was there a motor vehicle accident of some kind? That's often when a collision occurs.


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The charges are for activities NOT RELATED to the campaign. What part of this is beyond your ability to comprehend?
For now.


And?
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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For now.

And?
Keep hoping and praying theres more to it because Clintons said so.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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nail as much as possible and build a strong case is exactly the same..
Not at all. Try this:

Mopery is a crime that carries a punishment of 50 years in prison, and you suspect that the mayor and a number of his aides are all guilty of mopery. Sadly, mopery is very hard to prove, relying extensively on witness testimony - and nobody wants to talk.

Dopery is a crime that carries a punishment of 5 years in jail and being scolded as a naughty boy in front of the courthouse. Turns out, you can build a very strong case, purely on technical evidence, that one of the the mayor's aides is guilty of dopery. So you arrest him on the dopery charge, shows him and his lawyer the evidence that makes it clear that in court, he'll be found guilty of dopery. (This is the strong case.)

And as they digest that, you bring up the mopery investigation that also involves the aide. No, he's not arrested for that, certainly. Not yet. But perhaps a bit of cooperation on the mopery investigation could lead to leniency on the dopery one.

The mayor's aide has two options:
  • He can refuse all cooperation, go for broke, and be almost certain of 5 years in the slammer, a scolding, and uncertainty about the much more serious mopery investigation.
  • Or he can cooperate, get a very light sentence on the dopery charge and possibly avoid mopery charges at all.

Manafort is going in for dopery.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:17 PM
 
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Not at all. Try this:

Mopery is a crime that carries a punishment of 50 years in prison, and you suspect that the mayor and a number of his aides are all guilty of mopery. Sadly, mopery is very hard to prove, relying extensively on witness testimony - and nobody wants to talk.

Dopery is a crime that carries a punishment of 5 years in jail and being scolded as a naughty boy in front of the courthouse. Turns out, you can build a very strong case, purely on technical evidence, that one of the the mayor's aides is guilty of dopery. So you arrest him on the dopery charge, shows him and his lawyer the evidence that makes it clear that in court, he'll be found guilty of dopery. (This is the strong case.)

And as they digest that, you bring up the mopery investigation that also involves the aide. No, he's not arrested for that, certainly. Not yet. But perhaps a bit of cooperation on the mopery investigation could lead to leniency on the dopery one.

The mayor's aide has two options:
  • He can refuse all cooperation, go for broke, and be almost certain of 5 years in the slammer, a scolding, and uncertainty about the much more serious mopery investigation.
  • Or he can cooperate, get a very light sentence on the dopery charge and possibly avoid mopery charges at all.

Manafort is going in for dopery.
An apt analogy. The crime of dopery definitely goes to the top.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I just want one of them to sing like a BIRD!!!!!!
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