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a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
No - I'm talking socialist countries. They all eventually implode upon their own weight and then morph into something else. It's not all sunshine and roses in Europe or South America - just ask the youth who are starting to realize that they have to pay to support older generations. See the above definition of socialism who's synonyms are "leftism and welfarism". In the end it boils down to economic reality and socialism always fails. Tons of articles and explanations on this online.
If you were able to understand your own words you'll realize you are contradicting yourself.
The ussr was a centralized authoritarian regime, same with cuba and venezuela. Nothing to do with socialism. In europe the production, distribution are owned and regulated by private business and the state, not communities. Socialism does not mean capitalism with high taxes for redistribution. Socialism means the means of production are owned and controlled by communities.
The economy as it is today in america is not capitalist. Most of the capital is own by corporations, the average individual cannot compete because for one they have the politicians in their pockets and second they have access to a huge amount of money that regular people doesn't have access to. Corporations can commit frauds and crimes, they can default in their payment and get bail out without any consequences. An individual is sent to jail for the pettiest things.
In conclusion, you are confusing what socialism is with the propaganda you have heard your whole life, and don't even realize that we don't live in a capitalist system either.
It was the US, and Britain that put communists in power so through an apparently opposing economy both sides are financed by the same group of people.
Since the beginning to the end the west supported the ussr with loans and technology, even during the vietnam war. Just because they didn't teach you this in school doesn't mean is false, it just mean you have been lied your whole life.
what are you talking about? what does the USSR have to do with this discussion? the US and Britain created communism? everyone knows we don't have true capitalism in the US. the wikipedia entry defines socialism just fine and the community can be local, regional or state.
what are you talking about? what does the USSR have to do with this discussion? the US and Britain created communism? everyone knows we don't have true capitalism in the US. the wikipedia entry defines socialism just fine and the community can be local, regional or state.
The same way the ussr called themselves socialist, nowadays some europeans countries call themselves socialist.
Just because they call themselves "socialist" doesn't make it so, Like I said this is capitalism with high tax, NOT SOCIALISM.
You cannot call a state a community, Can you say the community of the USA? that's just stupid.
You cannot call a state a community, Can you say the community of the USA? that's just stupid.
Under the definition of a socialist community (or any political system for that matter) - there are no size borders in defining that community. It can be local, regional or state. Pretty simple.
Communism was created by lenin and trotsky who were supported by the west, and helped them consolidate power, and until its end it was supported financially and technologically.
The same is happening now. The so called "socialist" and so called "capitalist" are the same people in charge of the financial system or central banks. It keeps the public confused and arguing, so goods and services are not distributed by the community [in a socialistic manner] but according to how they want, a few people with an extraordinary amount of money and power, and the majority with nothing.
The reason "socialism" fails is the same reason the ussr fell: the financial support is dried up, it switched to financing another communist country, namely china.
Most people don't want a nanny state, they just want to receive a fair share for their labor. Everyone can see wealth is just accumulated by clever people.
The mistake most people make is that they want to continue with the same corrupt system, and have the state redistribute some of that wealth back to the people. This is a fallacy.
The only way to a healthy society is to separate the state from the economy, just like there was the separation of church and state in the past. This will guarantee every one is the same under the law, instead of having corporations over the law.
If this happens businesses will cooperate and not destroy each other like walmart and amazon do. Wealth will be more efficiently distributed for the benefits of everyone. That is, in the hands that create it not the ones that control it.
Most people will probably say this is a stupid idea, yet there are still countries like iran and saudi arabia, who can't even separate their religion from the state. This goes to show how narrow minded people really are, while failing to see our own.
What about people who work and pay taxes for years, don't they pay into "welfare"?
How is that different than a guy who worked for 10 years and paid taxes then all of a sudden one year collects food stamps and welfare???
Yea, but wait until you're old. The income limits are so low that most hard working Americans who paid into welfare can't get a dime out, so low that a small SS check will disqualify you. Basically you would have had to be a dead beat most of your life to qualify for welfare. Hence the meaning from cradle to grave because those are the only people that can qualify.
People, if you work, you better be saving for your elderly years because help that you pay for is not meant for you. It's only meant for uneducated, dead
beats, dependents who screwed up their lives majorly and at the get go.
What about people who work and pay taxes for years, don't they pay into "welfare"?
How is that different than a guy who worked for 10 years and paid taxes then all of a sudden one year collects food stamps and welfare???
You pay federal income tax and they decide where the money goes. You have extra money taken for Social Security, Medicare.
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