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Old 11-07-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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No wonder America is so violent, if 13.8% of the population murder people - I think this might be an example of liars using statistics.
13.8% of the USA population is 44 million.

so 44 million people are commting half the murders in the USA, wow

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Old 11-07-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I really think had many people today, been alive at the time of the american revolution, they would have actually sided with England over their fellow citizens, I believe they had a name for people like this too.
We have a contemporary example of just such insanity -- in the form of the "global warming" and cuddly polar bear hysteria peddled to the kiddies by certain segments of the media.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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We have a contemporary example of just such insanity -- in the form of the "global warming" and cuddly polar bear hysteria peddled to the kiddies by certain segments of the media.
Thats because the media is very good at swaying public opinion so its lines up with what Govt wants to happen...thats easy to see in the US today, as there is a whole lot of people that actually think Govt needs to restrict firearms to the people, I bet these same people also think Govt and law enforcement should be exempt from any new gun laws though...naturally they would be conditioned to think this way though! LOL
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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13.8% of the USA population is 23.4 million.

Assuming each one of those people only kills one person, that means 23 million Americans are or have been murdered by these people. Yikes.

Now the Trumpkins will claim that many of these murderers commit join murders so let's just say it's 15 million, still a whole lot. Mexico only had 23,000, nothing compared to 15 million.
Grow up and re-read the original post, what it actually said was that a minority of the population (13.8% -- and I doubt that many of them are functional and productive under the natural discipline of an open economy) are responsible for the majority of the mayhem and dysfunctionality -- not necessarily homicide.

But they are not contributing to this society -- and likely will be pushed toward more coercive means of forcing them to do so, as more of the world industrializes and the "playing field" levels and equalizes.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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I think it's probably because we also have one of the most violent cultures on the planet.
We don't.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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Grow up and re-read the original post, what it actually said was that a minority of the population (13.8% -- and I doubt that many of them are functional and productive under the natural discipline of an open economy) are responsible for the majority of the mayhem and dysfunctionality -- not necessarily homicide.

But they are not contributing to this society -- and likely will be pushed toward more coercive means of forcing them to do so, as more of the world industrializes and the "playing field" levels and equalizes.
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It is a fact that 13.8% of the population commits 50% or more of the murders. Take those out of the equasion and we go way down the list. They just happen to be black.
13.8% of our population is 44 million.

so 44 million are commiting half the murders?
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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We don't.
After 60 years of observation I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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We have laws that do not allow in some states, the right to defend life and property with impunity. Some states it is a duty to retreat.
Others it is stand your ground no duty to retreat.

We have gun free zones soft target rich environments. Schools Churches etc.

We have a justice system that prosecutes those who act in defense. Which removes incentive for defending life and liberty.

We also have an issue with police not being everywhere at every single minute of the day. That is not their fault at all.

Gun deaths of women and children? Men don't count?
Firearms safety is the end users sole responsibility. If you are irresponsible whether male, or female, or set yourself up for a Darwin Parenting Award that is the end users issue inside the private home.

School shootings kids dying, Arm teachers. Instead of putting students belly down on the floor and locking the door, teacher carries concealed and tells students to plug their ears. When the scumbag comes trying to break the glass in the classroom door, teacher puts the would be attacker down. But relying on a sign and metal detector will surely work

Thats like Putting a No Wolves allow sign in a meadow full of sheep.
Do you have an original thought,or just pull whatever Oath Keepers or some other fake news right wing blog says?
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Thats because the media is very good at swaying public opinion so its lines up with what Govt wants to happen...thats easy to see in the US today, as there is a whole lot of people that actually think Govt needs to restrict firearms to the people, I bet these same people also think Govt and law enforcement should be exempt from any new gun laws though...naturally they would be conditioned to think this way though! LOL
And in here too.
Exhibit A- A thread based on a false premise was posted by someone with big guns and small brains, who claims in one breath gun violence is responsible for 33k deaths per year. Then gets spanked in bipartisan fashion when suicides and negligent discharges and accidents are NOT acts of violence, and I post the numbers for relevant Gun VIOLENCE and wham. That number significantly drops from 33k per year to 9,616 for 2015...

Sucks when facts get in the way of emotion.

Cant have a false premise with gun violence, and equate suicide to violence. Or accidents/negligent discharges to violence.

Homicide is the only part that is relevant in gun violence/injuries from fire arms.

Accidents? Well if you're irresponsible, you're winning a Darwin award. Accidents meaning, Mechanical failure/defect? That is the risk one takes no different than driving down the road in a car.
Negligence? IF you have kids and do not teach them proper firearms handling and safety and leave one in the pipe for little johnny or suzie to pickup and shoot, Darwin parenting award for you.
Suicide? That is a mental health issue.

But gun violence, that isn't as an enormous issue as the media sensationalizes it to be.

Gun Violence=Homicide or injuring with intent to kill maim or scare or commissioned in the use of criminal enterprise...
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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What foreign country is going to attack us with a land invasion?
Spain. Our military would never expect it.
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