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You're conflating assault rifle and assault weapon.
Assault rifles date from the StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44) loosely meaning assault rifle 44. It's an official designation meaning a rifle of intermediate caliber with selective fire, and between SubGuns and Battle Rifles in general lethality.
Assault weapon means a rifle with an arm thing that goes up, bayonet lugs, or barrel shrouds. A media friendly term that is vague and demonized certain weapons to appear more dangerous than Fudd guns (even though Fudd guns come in calibers that can pass entirely through 10-15 people lined up).
The thing I find interesting is what's the purpose of banning rifles? Let's ignore the 2nd and just look at data. Do rifles kill more than any other firearm (civilian use clearly not in combat)? No they don't, they kill less than hands and feet. So why be concerned, you're more likely to be beaten to death than shot and killed by a rifle. Handguns amount to about 70+% of all fatal firearms use (ballpark from memory), but someone thinks rifles are the issue. Some think semi-automatic rifles are the issue (a subset of rifles the FBI doesn't even track, as it's statistically irrelevant).
I think the concern stems solely from the "number of people one can kill very quickly with this firearm" more than anything else. I actually think that on a daily basis, handguns are way more of a concern.
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No. What people ignore is that it was also a man with a rifle that stopped the shooter.
Nope. He didn't. The shooter was done killing. What he did was follow him until the shooter realized he was being followed, pulled over, and shot himself.
You could do that without a gun if you wanted.
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You seem to be contradicting yourself from previous posts saying you are Pro 2A. How many guns should we be allowed to have? I bird hunt, so I have a few shotguns for different types of birds. I deer hunt, so I have a few rifles of various calibers, for terrain, and ranges I hunt. I small game hunt so I have .22's, and smaller caliber rifles. I have competitively target shot in the past so I have target rifles, and target oriented hand guns for competition. I keep some hand guns, and rifles for self, and home defense, in various calibers.
Which ones should I give up? They all have a niche. Who gets to decide which ones I have to turn in?
I wasn't really addressing the ones you own. I was addressing your assertion that once you are vetted, you be allowed unfettered access to as many guns as you can afford to buy.
I think people need to be vetted for each gun they buy. I'd rather the number of guns a person buys be tracked.
I think that tracking like this could have helped flag the shooter from Las Vegas as a potential danger, since he was amassing larger quantities in a short amount of time.
That's all.
I get that people own multiple guns. I just don't think they should be buying them bulk, like a Costco special.
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Rights, liberty and freedom.
You pick one, I pick all 3.
Explain what your liberties are?
Explain what my liberties are?
I bet money this is going to be funny!
There's really no point. You have your opinion. I have mine. I'm attempting to be reasonable. I don't really know what you're doing. I do know I'm done talking about it with you, though.
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I agree on the AR-15. However Rifles should be allowed as long as the background check comes back OK.
But the AR-15 is a rifle, eh?
"I can't define an assault rifle but I know one when I see it."
Just like Potter Stewart on obscenity, "But I know it when I see it"
Nope. He didn't. The shooter was done killing. What he did was follow him until the shooter realized he was being followed, pulled over, and shot himself.
You could do that without a gun if you wanted.
Actually he shot the shooter at the church. The shooter then dropped his weapon and fled. You must have missed that on the news. They chased the shooter at speeds of over 100 mph. I think he knew he was being followed.
Oh I know it. But I like to test the waters of the feeble minded from time to time to get their definition of compromise. Afterall they shot down the Grassley Cruz bill because in addition to mandatory instant reporting of federal employees to NICS, keeping schools safer, property seizure of the attackers to fund programs, it contained pro gun legislation that would have been a fair compromise.
I like to give out enough rope for them to hang themselves. There are 2 definitions of compromise.
1. A fair give and take 1 hand washes the other agreement.
2. Weakening integrity through gradual depletion or all at once effort.
Color me shocked the feeble choose weakening integrity through gradual depletion.
Example.
The hull of the titanic was compromised by an ice berg. The spy's location had been compromised. That's the only compromise they are interested. That's the common sense mantra they spew.
Live in NY fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, absolutely not.
That bill just compromises and infringes the 2nd amendment further. As does any legislation concerning the peoples arms has, since the Civil War. All arms legislation is an infringement on the peoples liberty and is illegally placed upon the people, by definition of the 2nd amendment. Shall not be infringed part, sure has been ignored.
I think the concern stems solely from the "number of people one can kill very quickly with this firearm" more than anything else.
How many people can you kill, and how quickly, with a government authorized to restrict its subjects' firearms?
Far more than with an AR-15. Or even several of them. Or a bump stock.
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