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Old 11-12-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Trying to see where people lean....if it's just the age....then it's across the board, not because you hate someone....

Slick wille (49) and monica (22)......
It's the whole 14 year old thing.... 22 is not the same as 14.....

 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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It was not a rape but it was a molestation. The low life still doesn’t deserve to serve in the senate. Seems like the Republicans can overlook anything as long as their a Republican. Let’s face it, seems like they would rather have a screwed up guy and child molester in office than a Democrat. That’s messed up. I guess this is what we’ve come to. Party over country....
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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How about a 49 year old man and a 22 year old woman?
Both adults, who cares what they do as long as it is consensual. A 14 year old IS NOT an adult which is why it is considered statutory rape if someone 18 or older has sex with someone who is 14 even if it is consensual.
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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You say it's not a legal thing, but what if they dropped the age of consent to 14? Would you be outraged? How would you judge his character?
The age for sexual consent in many states is not much older than 14 actually!
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Someone from somewhere comes out 38 years later. It looks pretty bogus. I stand with Roy Moore, he's no Todd Akin.
Would you feel the same if Moore was a Democrat?
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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The age for sexual consent in many states is not much older than 14 actually!
In Alabama it's 16.
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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But one of the main foundations for the US justice system is that someone is to be assumed innocent until proven guilty in court, so that means, in these cases, we SHOULD assume all the victims are wrong, or lying, etc? Doesnt that go hand in hand with assuming them innocent?

I do not think all these revelations will change anything though, hollywood has been like this for decades, probably not going to change anytime soon, they will just get better at hiding it.

Im sure it will be addressed at the next Bohemian Grove meeting!
The presumption of innocence doesn't go that far. However there has to be some ability to cross-examine the accuser. The Sixth Amendment to the Constitution states:
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Originally Posted by Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. (emphasis supplied)
No matter how "scared" an accuser may be he or she must still plead his or her case and prove it, beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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When they were "molested" they may have been starstruck. They may have "decided" they were abused after listening to the drumbeat of news.
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What a despicable thing to say. You demean and belittle every woman or girl who was ever harassed, molested or otherwise victimized by an older, bigger, stronger or more powerful man. And there are millions upon millions of us out here.

It's people like you who have successfully kept women silent all these years. But your time is over.
Great reply to a really awful thing to say. Blame the victim is still popular amongst the Neanderthal crowd, but these folks are going to learn, the easy way or the hard way, that its illegal to sexually molest someone against their will.
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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It was not a rape but it was a molestation. The low life still doesn’t deserve to serve in the senate. Seems like the Republicans can overlook anything as long as their a Republican. Let’s face it, seems like they would rather have a screwed up guy and child molester in office than a Democrat. That’s messed up. I guess this is what we’ve come to. Party over country....
It may be HIGHLY inappropriate, but a 14 yr old is not exactly 'child molestation' territory.
 
Old 11-12-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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In Alabama it's 16.
Yes, and I believe some states, it is 15, but really, not much difference physically or mentally between a 14 and 16 yr old. To see the word 'child molestation' being thrown around when its a 14 or even 16 yr old is a slap in the face to real child molestation victims imo.
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