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Old 11-12-2017, 05:27 AM
 
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Regardless, the economy did great under Bill, unlike GW and Obama. I like Bill less, now then then, but he didn't kill the economy as the other two did. I remember Rush saying the economy would collapse under Bill, and it did the opposite. I like Rush alright but he was way off then.
"Regardless, the economy did great under Bill, unlike GW "

Here we go again!

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Publication: Business Wire
Date: Friday, January 4 2008

More Than 8.3 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003 In Longest Continuous Run Of Job Growth On Record

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new jobs figures - 18,000 jobs created in December. Since August 2003, more than 8.3 million jobs have been created, with more than 1.3 million jobs created throughout 2007. Our economy has now added jobs for 52 straight months - the longest period of uninterrupted job growth on record. The unemployment rate remains low at 5 percent. The U.S. economy benefits from a solid foundation, but we cannot take economic growth for granted and economic indicators have become increasingly mixed. President Bush will continue working with Congress to address the challenges our economy faces and help facilitate long-term economic growth, job growth, and better standards of living for all Americans.

* Real GDP grew at a strong 4.9 percent annual rate in the third quarter of 2007. The economy has now experienced six years of uninterrupted growth, averaging 2.8 percent a year since 2001.

* Real after-tax per capita personal income has risen by 11.7 percent - an average of more than $3,550 per person - since President Bush took office.

* Over the course of this Administration, productivity growth has averaged 2.6 percent per year. This growth is well above average productivity growth in the 1990s, 1980s, and 1970s.


By 2003, Mr. Bush grasped this lesson. In that year, he cut the dividend and capital gains rates to 15 percent each, and the economy responded. In two years, stocks rose 20 percent. In three years, $15 trillion of new wealth was created. The U.S. economy added 8 million new jobs from mid-2003 to early 2007, and the median household increased its wealth by $20,000 in real terms.



But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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"Regardless, the economy did great under Bill, unlike GW "

Here we go again!

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Publication: Business Wire
Date: Friday, January 4 2008

More Than 8.3 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003 In Longest Continuous Run Of Job Growth On Record

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new jobs figures - 18,000 jobs created in December. Since August 2003, more than 8.3 million jobs have been created, with more than 1.3 million jobs created throughout 2007. Our economy has now added jobs for 52 straight months - the longest period of uninterrupted job growth on record. The unemployment rate remains low at 5 percent. The U.S. economy benefits from a solid foundation, but we cannot take economic growth for granted and economic indicators have become increasingly mixed. President Bush will continue working with Congress to address the challenges our economy faces and help facilitate long-term economic growth, job growth, and better standards of living for all Americans.

* Real GDP grew at a strong 4.9 percent annual rate in the third quarter of 2007. The economy has now experienced six years of uninterrupted growth, averaging 2.8 percent a year since 2001.

* Real after-tax per capita personal income has risen by 11.7 percent - an average of more than $3,550 per person - since President Bush took office.

* Over the course of this Administration, productivity growth has averaged 2.6 percent per year. This growth is well above average productivity growth in the 1990s, 1980s, and 1970s.

By 2003, Mr. Bush grasped this lesson. In that year, he cut the dividend and capital gains rates to 15 percent each, and the economy responded. In two years, stocks rose 20 percent. In three years, $15 trillion of new wealth was created. The U.S. economy added 8 million new jobs from mid-2003 to early 2007, and the median household increased its wealth by $20,000 in real terms.



But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall
Thank you Newt Gingrich, Trent Lott, & bill Clinton.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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"Regardless, the economy did great under Bill, unlike GW "

Here we go again!

Read AND LEARN


Publication: Business Wire
Date: Friday, January 4 2008

More Than 8.3 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003 In Longest Continuous Run Of Job Growth On Record

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new jobs figures - 18,000 jobs created in December. Since August 2003, more than 8.3 million jobs have been created, with more than 1.3 million jobs created throughout 2007. Our economy has now added jobs for 52 straight months - the longest period of uninterrupted job growth on record. The unemployment rate remains low at 5 percent. The U.S. economy benefits from a solid foundation, but we cannot take economic growth for granted and economic indicators have become increasingly mixed. President Bush will continue working with Congress to address the challenges our economy faces and help facilitate long-term economic growth, job growth, and better standards of living for all Americans.

* Real GDP grew at a strong 4.9 percent annual rate in the third quarter of 2007. The economy has now experienced six years of uninterrupted growth, averaging 2.8 percent a year since 2001.

* Real after-tax per capita personal income has risen by 11.7 percent - an average of more than $3,550 per person - since President Bush took office.

* Over the course of this Administration, productivity growth has averaged 2.6 percent per year. This growth is well above average productivity growth in the 1990s, 1980s, and 1970s.


By 2003, Mr. Bush grasped this lesson. In that year, he cut the dividend and capital gains rates to 15 percent each, and the economy responded. In two years, stocks rose 20 percent. In three years, $15 trillion of new wealth was created. The U.S. economy added 8 million new jobs from mid-2003 to early 2007, and the median household increased its wealth by $20,000 in real terms.



But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall
And, yet, only a few months later, the housing market had crashed and burned, a lot of that 'wealth' had disappeared, unemployment was rising, and the nation was heading into the "great recession".
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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Ummm, during the Primaries he continuously got around 33-35% of the Republican backing and that means that 67-65% of Repubs were backing a different candidate. Trump won the nomination because the Republican support was divided up between a dozen candidates, had a good Republican run against him one on one trump it is highly doubtful that he would be President. Now he did get the Republican vote in the final but at that point it was down to Hillary or Trump, so the vote was along Party lines with nearly 50% of voters saying PASS on the lection. Those are the realities, like it or not. Count on this much, people Will show up for the next Presidential election, and there will be No 2nd term for trump.
Most of those dozen R candidates were gone by mid-Feb. and were negligible before then. As the race narrowed, Trump began to get a greater % of the total vote. He'd have beaten any other candidate one-on-one. He was the R voters choice.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: NC
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.. only thing that'll happen is he will choose to not re-run, or another candidate will run against him and win, or he'll die.. Stop dreaming..
This is what most of us dream about.

Jokes aside, I think you are 100% right. He won't be "forced" out. I also realize it is possible he could get reelected, but I think the sum of the possibilities you mention above is a greater likelihood.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:52 AM
 
Location: NC
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Please learn the difference of between being "convicted of a crime" and "committing a crime"
In the USA, at least until Trump destroys our Constitution and Bill of Rights, one is innocent until proven guilty. That means that you, as someone who doesn't know, can't say Hillary committed a crime. She is, at this moment, innocent.

It is no different than Trump and his collusion with Putin. Everyone knows he did it, EVERYONE, but we can't say he committed a crime, because at this moment he is innocent in the eyes of the law.

Both of them, Hillary, and Trump, will likely remain that way forever. I doubt either will be convicted of anything. Has nothing to do with what they actually might have done.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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Most republicans didn't vote for Trump in the primaries. That is a reason why I feel he will be primaried again in 2020. I think they will put up one guy against him - I think Kasich would be a good one, and that true Republicans will not vote for Trump. They only did because he made it through the primaries IMO and they are loyal to the "R."
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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I'm starting to see a lot of "We didn't like Trump, but Hillary was worse" nonsense, and it's pure revisionism. The GOP field was STACKED with solid conservatives and competent, respectable politicians. It was a great field, and Trump TROUNCED them all. He took some major states with 70% of the primary vote. He was the guy you wanted. Hillary didn't force you to vote for Trump. Own it.
GOP field was stacked with respectable candidates? I'm glad you liked them so much. Which one did you vote for?
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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I'm starting to see a lot of "We didn't like Trump, but Hillary was worse" nonsense, and it's pure revisionism. The GOP field was STACKED with solid conservatives and competent, respectable politicians. It was a great field, and Trump TROUNCED them all. He took some major states with 70% of the primary vote. He was the guy you wanted. Hillary didn't force you to vote for Trump. Own it.
Uh....allow me to "own it."

And also let me remind you that it matters not one bit that the field was filled with conservative contenders. What matters is who was left standing, and I've said that I would have supported ANY Republican nominee--unlike the "Never-Trumpers."

So quit your beefing and bellyaching, and "own" your vile hag. You lost. Get over it.
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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Regardless, the economy did great under Bill, unlike GW and Obama. I like Bill less, now then then, but he didn't kill the economy as the other two did. I remember Rush saying the economy would collapse under Bill, and it did the opposite. I like Rush alright but he was way off then.
Actually it was Bill who said the economy was gonna collapse, and deficits would skyrocket, because he was twisted into signing budget bills to cut taxes.
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