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Old 11-13-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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I know several that don't, so who's anecdotal evidence is best? You going to hit me with Buffet yet again?
You know billionaires who have never created a job? Really? Examples please....
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You know billionaires who have never created a job? Really? Examples please....
How about the Sultan of Brunei? Or the King of Saudi Arabia?
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Never heard of a billionaire that didnt have tens of thousands of employees which improved their lives as well.
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You know billionaires who have never created a job? Really? Examples please....
well, you went and moved the goal posts again, so good for you for being consistent. Your point was you never heard of any billionaire that didn't have 10's of thousands of employees, which I countered, I know of many billionaires who don't have "10's of thousands of employees".

As for your new point- pick a random Walton, would be no different then if their shares were held by Share Holder X.

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Old 11-13-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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How about the Sultan of Brunei? Or the King of Saudi Arabia?
you have to go to monarchs in other countries to discuss USA tax policies and use their examples to object to capitalism?

I think there is an error with your thinking process
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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you have to go to monarchs in other countries to discuss USA tax policies?
You said name a billionaire who hasn't created jobs, if you were looking for more specifics, you should have stated so
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I never witnessed this, but then again, I live in a "right to starve" state, so the Union has to be better to insure survival
You do know that unions are allowed in right to work states .....right?

They just can't make participation or paying dues mandatory as a condition of employment.

Not sure why anyone would have a problem with that?
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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You said name a billionaire who hasn't created jobs, if you were looking for more specifics, you should have stated so
Do you wanna try to list an AMERICAN one affected by OUR TAX CODE.. I have yet to hear of one individual concerned about the wealth of monarchs around the world..
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You do know that unions are allowed in right to work states .....right?

They just can't make participation or paying dues mandatory as a condition of employment.

Not sure why anyone would have a problem with that?
Because, in a shop with a union, non union employees also generally get the benefits of the union. But if they don't pay dues (which if they don't have to, they won't), short changes the union of money, AND sets a bad precedent for others IN the union to stop paying their dues, since hey, they still get the benefits, right? And then, next thing you know, the union has been broken. And the standing collective bargaining agreement goes with it
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:37 PM
 
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Quite a few unions swung to Trump. Why was that?
Because they had to...he was the president now. It doesn't mean they liked him though. But unions are for the middle class and wanted Trump to know that.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:39 PM
 
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Because they had to...he was the president now. It doesn't mean they liked him though. But unions are for the middle class and wanted Trump to know that.
They swung to Trump before he was elected.

But yes, they are in many instances for the middle class, that is why they defected from the Obama/Clinton wing of the party.
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