Why I am a proud Republican: Republicans eliminating student loan deductions (regime, revolution)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by kat in aiken

Since our votes are supposed to be secret, tell us how you know that?

they don't know, I cited two studies that used demographics to establish that between Trump lost the college educated vote by 7-9%

[Ponderosa]

The congressional tax scoring service said today that the Trump Tax initiative will raise taxes for 14 million American families making less than $200K per year. It will hit particularly hard on those above $75K. Those people will be funding a cut for millionaires and billionaires. Not satisfied with that, Trump called for the law to be amended to give even more to the richest people in the country and this will come with even more pain for the middle class.

[Fiyero]

The tax plan also has a tax cut for people who own golf courses. Lol, yeah because that's important for anyone but Trump...

Republicans are a plague on humanity.

[Ponderosa]

The senate bill eliminates tax favored treatment for catchup in 401k programs for people 50 and over. The $6K one could contribute - gone! Instead, you can contributre $9K if you pay taxes up front on it. That money will go straight to the pockets of millionaires and billionaires who make out like bandits in the Trump plans.

[Steve McDonald]

Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas

That will not be the effect, but by the time you realize it they will have an excuse for you and I am sure you will simply accept it.


You think the Repubs want small government and out of our lives? Really?

What the Republicans want is a government that is smaller in its benefits to the majority of people and much larger for corporations and those in the upper brackets of income and wealth.

[EveryLady]

Originally Posted by Steve McDonald

What the Republicans want is a government that is smaller in its benefits to the majority of people and much larger for corporations and those in the upper brackets of income and wealth.

It's a simple - and really quite logical, if you accept the basic concept - continuation of the theory that those whose possess capital should reap the rewards, either as net profit or capital gains. The investor (or stockholder) is after all the one who takes the "risk."

The relatively higher paychecks of high-valued employees is a direct measure of their "worth."

Now how do employees go about acquiring the skills that enable them to contribute to bottom-line profits?

Well ... through education. Now HERE there are two traditional models.

The European, where university education tends to be government-funded with students qualifying by passing competitive exams, some of which are one-shot only opportunities.

OR our American model, where education traditionally has been open to a wider segment of the population with much of it self-funded.

Pluses and minuses to both systems. The American model opened doors for the less affluent and arguably raised overall productivity with a better educated populace. It, in part, made possible the American Dream.

With globalization (and make no mistake, rhetoric aside, Republicans and the backers of the Tea Party are ALL about globalization) there is less need for the "average"-educated. Heck, as some have pointed out those of the true middle class tend to be pesky nuisances at times.

Might they question?

Here, what AMAZES me about the Sean Hannity form of "information-transmission" is that so many buy off on it, not seeing or caring that it is blatant propaganda. Listen ANALYTICALLY - the inconsistencies within his shows are clear, as he starts with one proposition then subtly alters it into an much firmer CONCLUSION by show end.

Another step is to transform observable or verifiable data points into "Fake News."

So is it a surprise that we see this political attack on education funding, with a pulling of support both for public schools at the elementary and secondary levels and policies like the one discussed in this thread? Hardly.

For, talented or not, if you and your family does not have the immediate funds for your training then by definition it is not deserved. Or should be subsidized with OUR profits, through taxation.

Sure, the rhetoric is all boxed up and packaged with a pretty bow.

But in the end, that's what it is.

[Casper in Dallas]

Originally Posted by Steve McDonald

What the Republicans want is a government that is smaller in its benefits to the majority of people and much larger for corporations and those in the upper brackets of income and wealth.

Always have been, always been. New players, same old message.

[juppiter]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

So republicans love raising taxes as much as Dems do, who knew?

The GOP congress is a mess (and before someone says it, yeah, I'm aware Democrats are also a mess, but it's like a contest at this point which party is more of a mess.)

How hard is this? Pass a tax bill like the Bush tax cuts and cut taxes for everyone. That this bill might actually raise some people's taxes is ludicrous. They've made this way too complicated on themselves for no reason.

I looked at the estimate for what this tax cut would be for me... not even a thousand dollars, and I use that student loan deduction so it would probably be even less. Not worth my time at all.

[Bureaucat]

The level of hatred for college grads by Republican blue collar posters on this forum is really remarkable.

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick

The fact that you took 2 part time jobs instead of one full time job with benefits makes me doubt your judgement or education

Poster probably had to take two part time jobs because part time jobs tend to be far more flexible with their scheduling, allowing him or her to hold two jobs and still be able to attend class.