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Old 02-15-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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How many times has your house burnt down?

none probably?

Does that mean you don't need smoke detectors/fire extinguishers?
What does this have to do with shooting people?

 
Old 02-15-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Then try to get those things passed into law. Then stand by while they are struck down in the courts.
Then so be it. But stop acting like the only conversation that's being had about guns is confiscating them all.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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I've heard this silly "logic" a thousand times. Didn't buy it then, don't buy it now. Trying to draw a false parallel between guns and automobiles or bombs is ridiculous, everyone knows this. Guns are an extremely effective weapon of mass lethality, a nearly perfect weapon for anyone wanting to slaughter people in groups; a gun is small but deadly. VERY easy to obtain by almost anyone, and relatively cheap.
They argue their same position every time. It's not the guns, it's mental health, we need our guns, it's our "right" to have our guns, it's mental health, it's not our guns, we want our guns, it's our right, repeat till you make everyone want to throw up.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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Then so be it. But stop acting like the only conversation that's being had about guns is confiscating them all.
I agree that is not the only conversation being had........ why do you keep attributing things to me that i have not said?
 
Old 02-15-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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I was thinking the same and we could add most drugs to this idea.
Heroine is against the law but that hasn't stopped people from shooting up and killing themselves.

The vast majority of gun owners obey the laws of their states. They are good upstanding people that love America and the shooting sports that is such a part of our heritage.

The majority of people say no to drugs and we can add excessive alcohol consumption to this list as well.

Mass shootings are a mental health issue that is actually a rather recent development in the history of the USA.
We need to figure out what makes a deranged individual pick up a gun and kill as many innocent people as possible.

In Florida did that killer have specific targets and when he had killed them he moved on to others just for the fun of it?
Was this how he planned to make his mark on the world?

It is not guns but a mental health issue.
Except that people with mental illnesses are less like to be the perpetrators of shootings. So that’s just a common misconception that you are perpetuating.

Mental illness isn’t a major cause of gun murder, or mass shootings..

Subsequent studies, both in the US and abroad, arrived at broadly similar conclusions to the 1980s ECA study that concluded only 4 percent of US violence is attributable to mental illness.

Instead, a major factor is that the US has a lot more guns floating around. Swanson offers an example: “Imagine three immature, impulsive, intoxicated young men who come out of a pub in the UK in the middle of the night and get into an argument. There, somebody gets a black eye and a bloody nose. In one of our big cities, it’s statistically more likely someone has a firearm, so you’re likelier to get a dead body.”




https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...mass-shootings
 
Old 02-15-2018, 12:59 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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That's fine that you want to keep your guns. I just want you to pay insurance for every gun you own, be financially and potentially criminally liable if you "lose" that gun, and be entered into a federal database.

And I think that you should have insurance and be held financially and potentially criminally liable if you "lose" your car and the "borrower" injures or kills someone with it. Also, since you're so careless as to have your car stolen (which is statistically more likely than having a firearm stolen), I think your name should be entered into a federal data base.

Keep in mind, neither a gun nor a car owner who has their property stolen has committed a crime yet you want to make the owner of a stolen gun a felon. Think about that.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They argue their same position every time. It's not the guns, it's mental health, we need our guns, it's our "right" to have our guns, it's mental health, it's not our guns, we want our guns, it's our right, repeat till you make everyone want to throw up.
So the gun is committing violent crime all by itself, not the criminal, or mentally ill? Hmmmm, I guess "smart guns" really do exist after all.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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So the gun is committing violent crime all by itself, not the criminal, or mentally ill? Hmmmm, I guess "smart guns" really do exist after all.
You can't argue w/ you guys. It's fruitless. You're obsessed w/ your guns (ie see Freud).
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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The loss of stable family parenting is much more to blame for the increasing violence in public schools and society much, much more than guns.

Nearly all of the people doing this come from broken homes and/or apathetic parents. With a little research you will also find that most of the craziest dictators, such as Hitler, also come from very dysfunctional homes.

It is time liberals stop pointing their dirty fingers at guns when the real cause of this violence is the dysfunctional parenting that their crazy ideologies cause, such as neo-feminism.

The way things are going it is only going to get worse. This is only the tip of the iceberg. If you don't raise your children in a stable home with loving parents with decent values and ethics, you are part of the problem much more than any firearm will ever be.

Stop creating angry and discontented people with your sick and dysfunctional homes. That will be a good start.

If you cant provide a good and stable home then don't have children! Get yourself fixed.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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The loss of stable family parenting is much more to blame for the increasing violence in public schools and society much, much more than guns.

Nearly all of the people doing this come from broken homes and/or apathetic parents. With a little research you will also find that most of the craziest dictators, such as Hitler, also come from very dysfunctional homes.

It is time liberals stop pointing their dirty fingers at guns when the real cause of this violence is the dysfunctional parenting that their crazy ideologies cause, such as neo-feminism.

The way things are going it is only going to get worse. This is only the tip of the iceberg. If you don't raise your children in a stable home with loving parents with decent values and ethics, you are part of the problem much more than any firearm will ever be.

Stop creating angry and discontented with your sick homes.
Neo-Feminism, that's the reason we have gun violence? Wow, okay. Carry on.
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