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Old 11-14-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Pence manages to get himself caught lying about Trump- wikileaks too.!



https://www.salon.com/2017/11/14/mik...and-wikileaks/



honestly, do these Republicans even think before speaking? they just keep digging that hole Pence may find himself missing his turn in the big chair, because he just keeps lying..
It's because they're stupid. All of these people are in way over their heads - they've simply never played at this level before. People like Pence, Sessions, and Zinke have never been anything more than second-rate political hacks barely even taken seriously by their own political leadership, and they have no clue what they've gotten themselves into. And the whole Trump family themselves? They're literally nothing more than low-grade moron trailer trash; they're just cheap thugs and con artists who are used to just bullying our buying their way out of whatever trouble they get into.

The Trump family can't even begin to comprehend the mess they've created for themselves; they just assumed that once the ****er took office, he'd be able to brute force his way through everything by bullying, threatening, and firing anyone who challenged or investigated him. He was literally stunned to find out that didn't work, because he had no clue how our system of government operates. But he's starting to get a lesson on that...


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Clinton was in public office at the time..

and that has nothing at all to do with the discussion given this is about a conversation about Trump LEAKING HIS OWN tax returns, which IS NOT ILLEGAL..

READ THE OP
Bull****. Learn to read. The discussion about the tax returns was just one of many they had, and the article is about a much wider pattern of ongoing communications between the two parties. Try telling the truth for a change, you might actually learn to like it.

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Old 11-14-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Bull****. Learn to read. The discussion about the tax returns was just one of many they had, and the article is about a much wider pattern of ongoing communications between the two parties. Try telling the truth for a change, you might actually learn to like it.
YOU tell the truth, and then list the ILLEGAL communications between the two parties..

I'll wait
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:24 PM
 
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YOU tell the truth, and then list the ILLEGAL communications between the two parties..

I'll wait
You mean other than the ones listed in this article and the ones I linked earlier?
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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It depends on what they were meeting about.

Meeting foreign nationals, who Jr., Manafort and Kushner met with in June 2016, about "opposition research" (dirt on Hillary Clinton), which is considered a thing of value and considered a contribution, is illegal.

You familiarize yourself with the law below and then realize they knew who they were meeting and what they were offering. So, even if nothing came of the meeting, just attending the meeting is conspiracy to break federal election the law.

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510)

(a)Definitions
3)Foreign national means -
(ii) An individual who is not a citizen of the United States and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined in 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20);
(4)Knowingly means that a person must:
(i) Have actual knowledge that the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national;
(ii) Be aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to conclude that there is a substantial probability that the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national; or
(iii) Be aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national, but the person failed to conduct a reasonable inquiry.

(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

(c)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals to political committees and organizations of political parties. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or donation to:
(1) A political committee of a political party, including a national party committee, a national congressional campaign committee, or a State, district, or local party committee, including a non-Federal account of a State, district, or local party committee, or
(2) An organization of a political party whether or not the organization is a political committee under 11 CFR 100.5.
It must strongly be emphasized that the thing of value was what ultimately swayed the election in Trump's favor.

Dirt about the DNC and how they treated Sanders is what disenfranchised many DNC voters.

This data came from a foreign government, was released by foreign cutout of a foreign government, and was collusion.

The bar was again moved with GOP claiming it can't be proven that the collusion was reason for the election results therefore it wasn't conclusive collusion to warrant prosecution at trial.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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It must strongly be emphasized that the thing of value was what ultimately swayed the election in Trump's favor.

Dirt about the DNC and how they treated Sanders is what disenfranchised many DNC voters.

This data came from a foreign government, was released by foreign cutout of a foreign government, and was collusion.

The bar was again moved with GOP claiming it can't be proven that the collusion was reason for the election results therefore it wasn't conclusive collusion to warrant prosecution at trial.
The GOP can try and move the bar, but Muller and team know where it really is.

Jr. and team taking the meeting with the Russian nationals and expecting to get damaging information on Hillary Clinton provided by the Russia government is against Federal Election laws. The GOP can try and spin that, but just meeting with them to discuss this option is conspiracy.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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It must strongly be emphasized that the thing of value was what ultimately swayed the election in Trump's favor.

Dirt about the DNC and how they treated Sanders is what disenfranchised many DNC voters.

This data came from a foreign government, was released by foreign cutout of a foreign government, and was collusion.

The bar was again moved with GOP claiming it can't be proven that the collusion was reason for the election results therefore it wasn't conclusive collusion to warrant prosecution at trial.
The GOP can try and move the bar, but Muller and team know where it really is.

Jr. and team taking the meeting with the Russian nationals and expecting to get damaging information on Hillary Clinton provided by the Russia government is against Federal Election laws. The GOP can try and spin that, but just meeting with them to discuss this option is conspiracy.

Heck, and this doesn't even touch the obstruction part of the investigation.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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You mean other than the ones listed in this article and the ones I linked earlier?
I can post links showing we never landed on the moon, that doesnt make it so..
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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I can post links showing we never landed on the moon, that doesnt make it so..
Nothing more I can do for you. I'm not a licensed physician.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

Well, well, well...

It isn't a secret any longer.

Russiagate just keeps getting better.

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Old 11-14-2017, 04:42 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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one thing is for sure, this destroys any future possibility of assange claiming to be an impartial observer.
Absolutely. Wikileaks claims to be so impartial and transparent. We now know they were working directly with the Trump campaign.

Assange should have targeted corruption in both parties and his beloved Wikileaks might still be credible.
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