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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good
See, us non-sexual assaulters read and heard what Trump said and recognize that Trump admitted to not waiting for signals -- he just does it when he feels like doing it.
To those of us who manage to go through life without sexually assaulting women, we see 16 women coming forward as corroborating what Trump's already admitted to.
To those of us who are numerate and averse to sexual assault, we recognize that the odds of 16 women all lying about one man sexually assaulting them is improbable, especially considering that one man has admitted his MO is to sexually assault women.
The fact that you have to twist his words and create bubbles for two obviously connected events -- a man admitting his MO is a sexually assault, and women coming forward claiming he sexually assaulted them -- says as much about you as it does about Trump.
Yes she was. She could have made sure she was never alone with him if he was seducing her. She could have said no. She was not a woman of low IQ. I remember seeing her in a video clip claiming there was no coercion involved. She was an adult of legal age and a fully participating partner in the sex act with Clinton. What they did was wrong but was not forced in any way.
Monica was technically to consent as she was of age, but there is a reason why bosses sleeping with people far down the ladder in the chain of command is frowned upon. Specifically, the power imbalance makes it less likely for a less powerful person to turn down the advances of his or her more powerful employer.
That was not the case with Monica. She claimed he did not force himself on her. She was a fully consenting participant. Why try and make it look like he did?
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In this case, that more powerful employer just happened to be the most powerful man in the world. Of course, this doesn't even get into the many other women who have accused Bill of rape and other sexual assault.
Then let them come forward. IAC it doesn't excuse Trump's outrageous behavior. Trump admitted he assaulted women by forcing kisses on them and grabbing their crotches, and how he tried to seduce a married woman. HE ADMITTED THESE THINGS! What more do you need to know to understand the man has serious sexual and moral issues? That he has no respect for women?
Polanski is not a Democrat and not even a US citizen.
Now if you said Don Henley you'd be correct
His citizenship and party status are irrelevant to what I wrote. Polanski is supported by many democrats and leftists and he raped a US citizen and has been on the run from American justice for decades.
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She was an adult woman who was attracted to married men. It's really not that uncommon.
To call it rape is to diminish women who have actually been raped.
It was incredibly stupid of both of them. People found out about it and politicized it in order to bring Clinton down. Did they really think that this would go unnoticed?
His citizenship and party status is irrelevant to what I wrote. Polanski is supported by many democrats and leftists and he raped a US citizen and has been on the run from American justice for decades.
What democrats support Polanski? I'm a democrat and don't support Polanski.
I could, however, point you to Republicans who begged for leniency for Dennis Hastert. See how that works?
That was not the case with Monica. She claimed he did not force himself on her. She was a fully consenting participant. Why try and make it look like he did?
Then let them come forward. IAC it doesn't excuse Trump's outrageous behavior. Trump admitted he assaulted women by forcing kisses on them and grabbing their crotches, and how he tried to seduce a married woman. HE ADMITTED THESE THINGS! What more do you need to know to understand the man has serious sexual and moral issues? That he has no respect for women?
Are you not reading? There is a reason why employer employee relationships are frowned down upon and generally prohibited. Bill's creepy ass had no reason to know that Monica was truly consenting to anything and should've never even instigated sexual contact with such a low level intern. And I already explained that Trump admitted to no such thing (you and others seem to have a poor grasp of the English language).
Reposting what I wrote earlier on the Trump issue:
No, if you put it in context, you cannot exclude the "they let" part, which shows consent and motive/gives different meaning to the larger statement. They cannot be separated. Nice try. Ultimately, you may choose to give a meaning that is distinct and separate from the actual verbiage of Trump's statement, but that's all you and other leftists have. You cannot point to the actual language to support. Prior to stating "they let you do it," he states "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait." You, like most rabid, anti Trump folks, behave as if he is describing sexual assault (the "they let you" comment put aside for a second) when this is common practice among consenting adults. If out for a date or in a room where sexual tensions are running high, who in the world, man or woman, doesn't move in for the kiss if the mood/vibe is there? You choose to assign non-consensual activity to language that is not automatically that, which is a shame. Unlike how certain loony leftists want the world of consent to function where every sexual action has to be verbally consented to (never mind that non verbal cues play a huge role in consent) that's not how things work or should work. You claim that Trump's statements show that he doesn't wait for signals, when in reality they don't touch on that subject one way or the other (we do, of course, have the "they let you" consenting comment). But instead of questioning whether he did wait for signals, you automatically make the comments out to be nonconsensual, which shows your partisan stripes.
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But the most generous Democratic donor of the vocal pro-Polanski contingent, Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein, in an open letter called on "every US filmmaker to lobby against any move to bring Polanski back to the US, where he could face life in jail."
Weinstein last year gave $28,500 to the DNC and its White House Victory Fund, though he didn't contribute directly to Obama. In fact, he has been a big supporter of Obama's presidential rival-turned Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose campaigns and committees have received $88,000 from Weinstein over the year.
Truth be told, I'm not surprised to see Weinstein's name on that list.
"Why Does Hollywood Keep Defending Roman Polanski"
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