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Old 11-20-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
Probably true. But they are ignorant about our system. We are a republic, not a democracy. Each state votes for President and Vice President. Whoever wins the most states is the winner. There is a reason the Framers created that system, but the Leftists don't care to learn why. The reason is that the President represents the States in international affairs. That's why the States choose, not the nationwide popular vote of the People. They also wanted a system that would not give more weight to areas with the highest populations.

All that counts is that he won the most States, and it was a "landslide."
Funny how Trump likes the electoral college systems when it suits him and hates it when it doesn't

When Obama won:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...38556504494082

And another typically mature tweet:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...34957875544064



When Trump won:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...21053551140864


LOL. So consistent aint he?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7341f40d0b7b

 
Old 11-20-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Mason3000 View Post
No we have Donald Trump in the White House. What have you got?

they have a person that writes a book about losing
 
Old 11-20-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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There is all kinds of evidence. You choose not to acknowledge it.
B___ S___!!!!!! ..... you guys (The Republican Party and Its Right Wing Constituency Segments) went crazy for 8 yrs the minute you saw a "black man as President" and backed masses of RABID Republican Politician who stood up and made a public statement, THAT THEY WOULD OPPOSE ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, Obama said or did. !!! Video
  • They were so vile in their rabid mentality, they did not even respect the Oath they took, and made a statement as such, which should have invalidate and caused all of them to be removed, due to such gross desecration of the Oath of Office.

    They further created the insane and insidious structure of organization as the Tea Party

    The Buffoon in Office Today, pushed a birther madness.

    Republican whined and cried about "debt" and now they have no concern about debt, because they have the insidiousness of a Republican in Office.

    They spent 7 yrs attacking and still attacking ACA and anything and everything that Obama achieved

    They are vile and rabid enough to try and deny the positive work Obama engaged and performed to build back and strengthen the economy,

    They are liar's when it comes to the Unemployment rates, because during Obama terms the Unemployment rate fell to levels that had not been seen since the 1970's,

    Not one Ethic Violation was attributed to the Obama Administration, and Trump violates ethics every minute he remains in office.

    The List Goes On and On and On

    Before any bills were submitted, they planned their attack, before even knowing what proposals exist


Summary:

It's a BLATANT LIE.. to try and claim one has never seen the divisiveness, because there is no time in American history, except the Confederate Madness over 153 yrs. ago, that demonstrated the level of vile that exist today, and the same mentality of people, are creating the vile they have been created for over 153 yrs since the Civil War... Still pushing the craziness, and violating every ethic that backs this nations governance and its systems and organizations.

They (Republican System and Right Wing Constituency) and TRUMP make up a rabid group who is A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN SYSTEMS AND THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA, as well as our allies around the world !!!!!
And now by overt belligerence in mind and manner, they support "Treasonous acts and conduct by the Current Administration and its Current Cabinet, They are violating the very basis of our democracy, by allowing the craziness of Trump to install his family members, as if he's some Monarch over some authoritarian regime. The cast of characters is like a make up of the network of a dictators entourage.

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Not only is this a vile that has insulted and damaged every aspect of America and its Global Alliance Relationships, this administrative has used the same madness the wealthy used "post slavery in the south"upon and against the working poor and the dire poor in society, and they have used it for over 153 yrs... of pitting blacks against whites, to force down wages and promote dissension.
They push dialog that is aimed to create and promote a wedge, because they know if poor whites ever wake up and learn the truth and bond with minorities, they; together as a unified force, will demand higher wages and better working conditions, and they will demand assurances of job stability and benefit provisions.

They (The Republican Party and Its Right Wing Constituency Segments) wealthy will do anything to avoid that "bonding" between minorities and poor and working poor whites.
The sad thing is: the poor whites and working poor whites of the Republican system will never awaken to see the truths, because they have been groomed to think, their skin makes them more than they are, and they want to be special above all others, and their life and living conditions should have told them after all these years, that it is a fallacy and they should see if only their minds opened and their concepts could comprehend, they would know they have been made fools with such folly, by those who use such craziness to ensure that divisions persist. They chose the skin color as a basis because they know, people cannot change the color of their skin.

Many great and widely known voices have tried for decades to awaken the poor white masses but they have such a lust for some fiction of wanting to be "special", until they cannot hear, and the only thing they get is a run down environment, stagnant wages, and cycles of destitution that goes from one generations to the next, and they still refuse to acknowledge they are their own worst enemy.

Over time many white women have long ago seen the craziness, and they are far more likely and of interest to build diversity based relationship, and they are now more comfortable with their choices, because they no longer fear the right wing rabid groups who use to attack them, and denigrate them, because they respected and appreciated diversity. The liberal minded white males, have equally so, awakened and no longer fear the rabid right wing, so they too have become more comfortable with diversity relation and association in their personal and business life.
So there is no way, we are going to sit silent and allow a "false narrative" because suddenly Right Wingers want to again, rely on "Selective Amnesia" an go into some pretense as if they are of some moral standards. When even the fact of this Administration has shown, "moral and integrity based standards" means absolutely nothing to them and their Right Wing Constituency.

The Republican Party and Its Right Wing Constituency Segments, as well as the general Moderate Republican are 100% consumed in Tribalism.... ((with all its biases, bigotry, racism, aversions against other ethnicities, bias toward gender, and caught up in a spin of religiosity, that is demeaning to the Constitutions premise of Freedom of Religion.

They (The Republican Party and Its Right Wing Constituency Segments) have accepted and endorse "treason, lying members of their party sitting before congressional panels, and lying out of straight malice, and denigrating every aspect of the constitution basis of integrity, while insulting the very laws that govern this land; they have supported every "ethical violation that this nations highest administrative system held on to for centuries and decades", and within the past 11 months".

They (The Republican Party and Its Right Wing Constituency Segments) have demonstrated an OVERT vile far and above the general consistent methods and patterns of the historical vile that is at the core and process of the Modern Day Republican System))

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Old 11-20-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I don't think the Left brags about her winning the popular vote so much as whines about it.

Even a year later now, someone on the Left will bring it up as if it's somehow relevant.
 
Old 11-20-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
There is all kinds of evidence.
you may want to let kris kobach know that. he seems to be having problems coming up with any.
 
Old 11-20-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Border patrol agents find voter registration cards on illegal invaders all the time. They vote. Especially in California where 25 percent of illegal invaders live . The left will deny it but they vote and vote and vote.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washi...arly-2-million
 
Old 11-20-2017, 12:11 PM
JRR
 
Location: Middle Tennessee
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
I don't think the Left brags about her winning the popular vote so much as whines about it.

Even a year later now, someone on the Left will bring it up as if it's somehow relevant.
Let's see, who was it who started this thread? The OP has moved to the Left now?
 
Old 11-20-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Originally Posted by Cruithne View Post
Except that it's wrong.

The majority of the country DID vote for her.

Here are the final vote counts:


Clinton: 65,844,610
Trump: 62,979,636

That's a difference of 2,864,974. Almost 3 million votes.


Cook Political Report Final Tally
Yes the high density areas. Trump won more counties and more states. Had he not he would not have won.
 
Old 11-20-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Border patrol agents find voter registration cards on illegal invaders all the time. They vote. Especially in California where 25 percent of illegal invaders live . The left will deny it but they vote and vote and vote.
Bold talk.

Prove it.

 
Old 11-20-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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Yes the high density areas. Trump won more counties and more states. Had he not he would not have won.
Trump only won by about 70,000 votes distributed over three states. He lost the popular vote by millions. If the reverse were true and Trump won the popular vote but lost the election, Trump and Trump supporters would never ever ever stop talking about it. To say more populated areas should count less is ridiculous. Let's let those areas pay less in taxes then. Why should they contribute more but have their votes count less? Rural areas receive so much more in federal dollars because they don't have the money to support infrastructure, but their votes count as much as three times as much as an urban vote.
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