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Old 11-21-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: London
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71% of births in Iceland are to single mothers and it is one of the safest places in the world.

It also operates within a strong Nordic system of social welfare yet it has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world.

The poorest countries, with no safety net/ welfare, have the highest fertility rates.
I always find the blame on single mothers baffling...

I think people who do that have loved Little House on the Prairie too much. I don't think unruly children will be cured by their pops taking them out fishing.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:43 PM
 
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Bad parenting.
Yup!!!Parents need to be held accountable.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:45 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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its the liberal mentality...the kids are so perfect, deserve a medal for everything, its ok for them to standup and refuse their free education, we will give them a diploma anyway...

oh and then they DESERVE a free college too
No. It's not liberals. Don't start that again.

I'm liberal and I had to be a teacher of kids like this. I am 100% opposed to all this silly helicopter parenting and spoiling of kids. Maybe I should just blame it on conservatives?
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:46 PM
 
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In South Carolina, teachers can carry guns. Might be the last thing you ever do ...if you threaten Miss Pringle!
If you need a gun to handle a 1st grader than you probably shouldn't be handling a gun or kids
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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Wrong. I taught school in a 100% white middle class/lower middle class small town and the teachers endured verbal abuse all day long. One teacher finally yelled at a kid to sit down--the kid was jumping up from his desk, ready to attack her. Turns out the father was a cop and he got the teacher fired.

We had knives in school and maybe guns too. I don't think anyone was on welfare. What they needed was strict parenting and if the parents wouldn't do it, then the teachers should have been allowed to.
How did he get the teacher fired? I thought the teachers unions were pretty strong there.

But I agree, the first few posts were disgusting in their assumptions. It isn’t about race. It’s about kids not respecting authority anymore, and it’s not limited to race. I also heard they discourage real punishment these days.

What used to get a kid suspended now gets them in school suspension, but they still get to turn in their work and get full credit for it. When I was younger, a suspension meant you got zeros in all your classes and it was counted as unexcused absences. When you got more than five unexcused absences in a class in a semester you automatically failed the semester, no matter how well you did on tests or class work. It was a pretty effective deterrent.

Plus, we got a choice between detentions or swats, at least the guys did anyway. At our school you could only choose swats if there was a teacher of your sex that would do it. No female teachers did it, so us girls didn’t get the choice. Believe it or not, many or most guys would take the swats over losing credit or having to go to a detention.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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But an "educated" populace benefitsall of us!

Public education isn't perfect, but it definitely prevents a far worse reality.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/480775...th-famadihana/
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:49 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I always find the blame on single mothers baffling...

I think people who do that have loved Little House on the Prairie too much. I don't think unruly children will be cured by their pops taking them out fishing.
Other than study after study from all sides shows that children who grow up in two parent households have better outcomes across the board. From school completion to lower poverty rates to lower teen pregnancy rates to lower incarceration rates.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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How did he get the teacher fired? I thought the teachers unions were pretty strong there.

But I agree, the first few posts were disgusting in their assumptions. It isn’t about race. It’s about kids not respecting authority anymore, and it’s not limited to race. I also heard they discourage real punishment these days. What used to get a kid suspended now gets them in school suspension, but they still get to turn in their work and get full credit for it. When I was younger, a suspension meant you got zeros in all your classes and it was counted as unexcused absences. When you got more than five unexcused absences in a class in a semester you automatically failed the semester, no matter how well you did on tests or class work. It was a pretty effective deterrent. Plus, we got a choice between detentions or swats, at least the guys did anyway. At our school you could only choose swats if there was a teacher of your sex that would do it. No female teachers did it, so us girls didn’t get the choice. Believe it or not, many or most guys would take the swats over losing credit or having to go to a detention.
All he did was keep complaining to the principal and the school administration and threatening a lawsuit.

Schools are just as bad around here as anywhere else when it comes to kids being able to walk all over teachers. The school administration is scared of the parents and always side with them against teachers. Teaching is one of the worst jobs there is.

I was even told by the principal that I wasn't allowed to talk about school "discipline"--it had to be called "classroom management." Yeh, well it's the teachers who are out there on the front line. It was our lives that were in danger while we were alone in a classroom of 25 kids. The principal gets to sit in the office--and makes a lot of money. Don't even let anyone you care about become a teacher.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:52 PM
 
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I always find the blame on single mothers baffling...

I think people who do that have loved Little House on the Prairie too much. I don't think unruly children will be cured by their pops taking them out fishing.
Of course having two parents in the home is better than one as long as they’re not abusive. Studies have shown that over and over again. My objection to the stigma is the women are the ones getting all the fingers pointed at them. What about the fathers who won’t take responsibility?
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: London
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Other than study after study from all sides shows that children who grow up in two parent households have better outcomes across the board. From school completion to lower poverty rates to lower teen pregnancy rates to lower incarceration rates.
It has nothing to do with the fact that there is a man and a woman in the house, and everything to do with the correlation of married parents and the family having its together.

Married people generally are better off than singles in most metrics, so of course a kid would be better off in the married household on average.

Last edited by CaseyB; 11-22-2017 at 04:34 AM.. Reason: Language
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