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I do think sports is one area where it’s problematic. Men and women do have some generalized different strengths and weaknesses when it comes to sports. A competition where it is labeled as women’s gets potentially thrown into unfair territory if someone who was born with the male physical traits that are potentially greater than any of the women gets to compete. I know that under some rules, they have to have taken hormones for so long, but not sure if that is enough to equalize.
When it comes to M to F transgender, the NCAA requires 1 full year of "testosterone suppression treatment" before being allowed to compete as a women. The policy has been in effect for almost 6 years now and there have only been 3 known cases of a trans female competing as a women, with no superior advantages noted. In fact all 3 compete at the Division 3 level, and not the more competitive D2 or D1.
And its laughable how many people get worked up over gender issues when they do absolutely no harm to other people at all.
Live and let live - and stay out of other peoples' business.
It absolutely wouldn’t bother anyone if they weren’t busy pushing the bathroom and locker room issues and male to female transgenders in women’s sports, or going into the military so they can get their surgeries paid for by taxpayers. That’s when it starts affecting others in a negative way.
When it comes to M to F transgender, the NCAA requires 1 full year of "testosterone suppression treatment" before being allowed to compete as a women. The policy has been in effect for almost 6 years now and there have only been 3 known cases of a trans female competing as a women, with no superior advantages noted. In fact all 3 compete at the Division 3 level, and not the more competitive D2 or D1.
That’s just not true. Are you saying when a boy to girl athlete crushes the old female time record in track by several seconds it’s fair? Has nothing to do with the fact they were born male? Give me a frickin break!
That’s just not true. Are you saying when a boy to girl athlete crushes the old female time record in track by several seconds it’s fair? Has nothing to do with the fact they were born male? Give me a frickin break!
I was referring to trans females that have been on testosterone suppression drugs for at least one year as specified by the NCAA. Has any trans female in that category broken any records in college sports? No!
I sited three NCAA trans female athletes competing as a women in Div 3 sports. If they had a superior advantage they would be attending Stanford, or some other D1 University on an athletic scholarship.
I was referring to trans females that have been on testosterone suppression drugs for at least one year as specified by the NCAA. Has any trans female in that category broken any records in college sports? No!
I sited three NCAA trans female athletes competing as a women in Div 3 sports. If they had a superior advantage they would be attending Stanford, or some other D1 University on an athletic scholarship.
They have a superior advantage because despite testerone suppression, they still were born male. Males are physically stronger, faster and taller than women. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. It definitely has happened at the high school level. It’s happened in tract and wrestling for sure.
If someone wants to change genders, they need to accept the fact that sacrifices will have to be made. They should not be allowed to play women’s sports. The sports were segregated because males have a natural physical advantage over females. If a female to male wants to play a male sport, fine. It is stupid because they’re not going to ever be able to compete at the same level, but at least they don’t have an unfair biological advantage.
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They have a superior advantage because despite testerone suppression, they still were born male. Males are physically stronger, faster and taller than women. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. It definitely has happened at the high school level. It’s happened in tract and wrestling for sure.
If someone wants to change genders, they need to accept the fact that sacrifices will have to be made. They should not be allowed to play women’s sports. The sports were segregated because males have a natural physical advantage over females. If a female to male wants to play a male sport, fine. It is stupid because they’re not going to ever be able to compete at the same level, but at least they don’t have an unfair biological advantage.
The NCAA consulted with various medical experts whom deal in transgender issues. It was determined that testosterone suppression also decreases muscle mass, speed and endurance. Realizing there are some experts that may disagree, the policy when implemented was done so that if evidence says other-wise the policy could be changed that would effect certain sports or completely done away with. Three known examples of trans female athletes competing as female over the past eight years has yet to deem that policy wrong.
On another note all three of those athletes have or had over-whelming support from their team-mates, coaches and athletic staff.
The NCAA consulted with various medical experts whom deal in transgender issues. It was determined that testosterone suppression also decreases muscle mass, speed and endurance. Realizing there are some experts that may disagree, the policy when implemented was done so that if evidence says other-wise the policy could be changed that would effect certain sports or completely done away with. Three known examples of trans female athletes competing as female over the past eight years has yet to deem that policy wrong.
On another note all three of those athletes have or had over-whelming support from their team-mates, coaches and athletic staff.
Hip Structure and Center of Mass
Some differences can’t be changed, even with surgery and hormone treatments.
One of the major differences between male and female runners is the hip structure along with everything attached to hip movement. It’s not just a matter of having wide or narrow hips. A key difference is the ratio between hip width and femur length. Women tend to have a greater hip width-to-femur length ratio, which leads to greater hip adduction — that is, movement toward the center of the body. This difference has a domino effect that results in small differences in joint rotation and muscle recruitment.
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And its laughable how many people get worked up over gender issues when they do absolutely no harm to other people at all.
Live and let live - and stay out of other peoples' business.
Srsly. Anything that would prevent a boy turning out like Piers Morgan has to be a good thing.
I remember when a friend of mine was going insane that his little boy wanted a pretend kitchen for Christmas. He wasn't going to get it for him. His wife said 'but you are a chef in your own restaurant".
He got the kitchen. He didn't grow up to be gay or anything that people are worried about.
One opinion does not make it true. Like I previously stated the NCAA consulted with various experts in which there were differing opinions. The policy can be altered at any time based on practical evidence. My guess is if any changes were to be made it would most likely be with those that participate in individual events and not team participation.
Also keep in mind some cis-gender girls have physical advantages over other cis-gender girls. That is just a fact of life in sports. What would rock the cart would be if trans females all of a sudden had overwhelming advantages over all cis-gender girls, and not ordinary advantages over some cis-gender girls.
The transgender who was selected for the NZ women's weightlifting team, won an international event in Australia recently, and by a large margin -we're somehow supposed to believe this is all due to hard work and dedication.
I think fairness has taken a back seat to political correctness. The slippery slope isn't a fallacy after all.
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