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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
No 52 70.27%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-30-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Fat cats do not hoard money. Most of it is in capital investments that promote job growth.
Bullsh*t. But, continue with your delusion. Come back in two years and say this again.

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The GOP are fiscal incompetents. Whenever they are charge and they enact their "economic program" a few years later invariably and inevitably the system crashes. Then a Democrat is elected to clean up the mess. Problem is that the American voter can't remember more than 24 hours after the last crisis and so they re-elect incompetent Republicans again.

Next time the crash will be as bad as the great depression. The Republican voter should actually start reading books. Fiscal illiteracy is no way to run a country.
I'm expecting this. 2008 is burned in my brain. Yes, those who have investments, if they're smart enough to get out of the way, can profit. The poor working stiff living paycheck to paycheck loses his job and his house and his car.

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if by white hat, you mean sexual predators who make stupid arguments linking the great depression to tax policy then I will agree....

and if you mean that republicans are now the racists because they want all Americans to be free and for government to be smaller and less intrusive, then yea dems have been making that claim going all the way back to when Dems were putting on bed sheets and burning crosses.
You mean southern racists current day Republicans formerly known as southern racist Democrats. Still the same KKK, now known as Republicans.

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Funny, it doesn't stop you from claiming the Democrats of that era Hero's or electing their KKK members to the US Congress or Senate in recent history
What current Dem is a member of the KKK?
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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The votes were down party lines because the GOP doesn't need Democrats to pass tax reform. Your representative could just as easy stay home and it wouldn't change a thing.

Also, I challenge you to cite your source on the claim that there's a deduction "for moving a factory abroad."
These are relocation expenses that every company takes. Some claim this expense when they leave the country. It was mentioned today at around 12:15 PM by one of the Maryland Senators.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Where's your proof?
Thirty years of the middle class treading water. Trickle down has been around since the late eighties when it was referred to as voodoo economics.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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He has betrayed us, in what way and isn't that just your opinion, not based on fact?
He said one thing and will sign another.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Good. People should pay for their own stuff.
Your reply is trite and overly simplistic and adds noise.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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The discussion should be, why are we upset if the government is taking LESS money from certain amounts of people? Do those who believe that we need no tax cuts believe that the government is entitled to take as much money as it does? Heck, I hear some say that the government should take even more money from people.

Personally, I say they keep the medical deductions in and cut most of the services for illegal aliens instead.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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if by white hat, you mean sexual predators who make stupid arguments linking the great depression to tax policy then I will agree....


and if you mean that republicans are now the racists because they want all Americans to be free and for government to be smaller and less intrusive, then yea dems have been making that claim going all the way back to when Dems were putting on bed sheets and burning crosses.
what utter nonsense Ferd it is very very simple. Trump embraces Racists dems do not. Perhaps you are not racist perhaps you are , who knows. but we know Trump keeps KKK, ALTs , Duke close to his chest.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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Use a calculator. The loss of exemptions means the standard deduction only goes up by 16%. The loss of many deductions for middle class Americans mean they will see immediate increases in tax liability. Almost all Americans will see increases when the individual provisions expire in just 7 years.

I used a calculator, I even used the LA Times on line tax calculator, my taxes, according to them will drop $675 under the house bill and $900 under the Senate bill. I am definitely middle class and I can double my expansion plans for my at home business under this cut. I am a homeowner in NC.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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I used a calculator, I even used the LA Times on line tax calculator, my taxes, according to them will drop $675 under the house bill and $900 under the Senate bill. I am definitely middle class and I can double my expansion plans for my at home business under this cut. I am a homeowner in NC.
Homeowner and small business owner/landlord in NYC and I will be screwed by this tax plan. You can’t paint this tax reform with one brush. Some people will win a little while others will feel the brunt.

That $600- $900 a year is going to be a wash when healthcare cost continue to rise meanwhile the wealthy is seeing in excess of MILLIONS in tax breaks.

The economy is continually doing better and I fail to see the rush for tax reform that gives tax breaks that corporations don’t need and raising the deficit and cutting social programs
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I used a calculator, I even used the LA Times on line tax calculator, my taxes, according to them will drop $675 under the house bill and $900 under the Senate bill. I am definitely middle class and I can double my expansion plans for my at home business under this cut. I am a homeowner in NC.
Seriously - a whole $675-$900?? Geez..... well, whatever you do should really help that $1.5Trillion deficit. Have at it.

What do you plan to do when this tax cut goes away in five years and your taxes are higher??? Cut back?

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