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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
No 52 70.27%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-02-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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Our nation is already breaking apart.
No it isn't.

But the losers always complain that it is.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
He signed a bill into law that gave him nearly 1 trillion dollars to spend in his first months in office, which was used to reward campaign supporters.
Could you provide a source for that statement, or at least the name of the law?

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He signed a disastrous health care law that created nearly 1 trillion A YEAR in additional spending (the amount the Repub tax relief will add in 10 YEARS).
A republican in this thread claimed Obama increased our national debt by $8 trillion dollars.

According to the CBO Obamacare reduced the deficit.
https://www.thebalance.com/cbo-report-obamacare-3305627
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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This tax reform will spell the end of the Democrat party, they completely opposed it, and it will lead to 4 or 5% GDP growth and Trump will be the most heroic President ever.
Whereas if at least some of the Democrats had voted Yes, at least they'd be able to share in some of the glory.... but No.
President Trump will receive all the accolades.
You're delusional, buddy. There will be no "glory" connected to a tax bill that destroys the American middle class, while kissing the bloated a$$e$ of the rich. And no one, at any time, in the future, will refer to Donald Trump as "heroic." You clearly have no idea what is in this tax bill, and are simply parroting what right-wing media is spouting. Educate yourself. Better yet, read Orwell's 1984.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Re: bold: Senator Sanders expanded on the 'values' being debated:



Sanders: This Tax Bill Will Be Remembered As One Of The Greatest Robberies In American History

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...n_history.html
America's response should be to throw these Republicans who voted for this bill out next year.

I especially sympathize with squeezed Trump voters who believed Trump's rhetoric that he was going to take care of them. He sure took care of them alright. We New Yorkers tried to warn the rest of the country that Trump has no conscience and would say anything to get what he wants. Now, it's obvious that the guy that said that this bill was going to hurt himself and his rich friends was lying through his teeth. His family will benefit by a billion dollars and his rich friends are high-fiving him. I am sure they are thinking that voters are just so stupid, to fall for another GOP grifter play.

Trump hasn't drained the swamp. He created the black lagoon, with him as the creature from the black lagoon.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Did your accountant also tell you that the next step in the GOP plan will be to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to pay for this? He should have.

Are you absolutely ok with that too?
Some of us planned our futures to be safe from a social security failure. Why does social security need to be cut? Mismanagement over the span of decades perhaps? By both parties.....
No sir, I am not ok with it, but it has been expected for years. Unlike some or many, I refuse to place the security of my future into the hands of career politicians. Only a fool trusts their future to others.
Social Security in my mind was always a supplemental income, never the main stay. For me it will be like money found. A pleasant surprise.
I am angry that I paid into a system since I was 14, that has been robbed, abused and neglected by both major parties. I am angry that we can afford to give Israel and others, billions a year, but we can't manage our SS fund.
Do I blame the GOP? NO... I Blame both the GOP and the Dems. What did Obama and the Dems do to protect the SS fund? What did Bush do? Clinton robbed it.
So I am absolutely ok with paying less taxes. That money saved only helps my private retirement account.

I retire in January at age 55. No thanks to the left or right. They had nothing to do with it. My health insurance where I am going is 12% the cost of what I would pay here. My cost of living about half. Not all of us put all our eggs into the social security basket.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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The majority of the country DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP. They have every right to oppose his policies. And even Republicans supported appointing Mueller.
True.

Strangely enough, the GOP tax-cuts-for-the-rich bill is even less popular than their president.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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When have Democrats or Republicans ever passed bills to reduce spending?

SPENDING creates debt. You should learn this.
And so does reducing taxes... 2 sides of the coin here.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:31 AM
 
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What a wonderful news for Private Jet owners and a swift kick for Middle Class Americans.
The middle class Americans building aircraft and working in the transit industry will think differently.

Only the leftists think its a good thing for the government impose excessive taxes on Americans and business.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Some of us planned our futures to be safe from a social security failure. Why does social security need to be cut? Mismanagement over the span of decades perhaps? By both parties.....
No sir, I am not ok with it, but it has been expected for years. Unlike some or many, I refuse to place the security of my future into the hands of career politicians. Only a fool trusts their future to others.
Social Security in my mind was always a supplemental income, never the main stay. For me it will be like money found. A pleasant surprise.
I am angry that I paid into a system since I was 14, that has been robbed, abused and neglected by both major parties. I am angry that we can afford to give Israel and others, billions a year, but we can't manage our SS fund.
Do I blame the GOP? NO... I Blame both the GOP and the Dems. What did Obama and the Dems do to protect the SS fund? What did Bush do? Clinton robbed it.
So I am absolutely ok with paying less taxes. That money saved only helps my private retirement account.

I retire in January at age 55. No thanks to the left or right. They had nothing to do with it. My health insurance where I am going is 12% the cost of what I would pay here. My cost of living about half. Not all of us put all our eggs into the social security basket.
Clinton took money from the SS fund, then wrote an IOU to the Treasury for it,counted the IOU as an asset and then claimed he balanced the budget! lmao. some many stupid people will believe anything.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Republicans are backing a mess of a president who may well be a traitor as well as a robber baron tax bill.

Now, if they can only get that child molester elected.
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