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Old 11-30-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Reductio ad absurdum.

While you Google that, I'll just add that insurance policies come and go. It was a bad law that mandated hospitals must treat everyone, no matter what. Illegals and the poor use them as primary care facilities, which they are not meant to be, delaying and driving up the cost for those who do need such treatment.
I cant google your opinion on that. I have to ask you. Do you think the tattoo-on-the-forehead system is feasible in order to deny you care in case of emergency and increase your freedom?
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:17 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Default Hawaii's Health Is Thriving

This article is from 2014. I would love to live in Hawaii for their healthcare alone but I can't afford to, yet.

Hawaii's trailblazing healthcare underscores disparity - LA Times

It can be done and Hawaii has proven that.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Single payer is great. Never having to think about medical bills, is nice.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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In other countries, you pay no matter what.. you know those evil countries that have single payer health... the ones you keep telling everyone how wonderful it is... EVERYONE pays...
So would you support a national health care system if it was funded by a 5% federal sales tax and a 8% payroll tax split 80-20 between employer and employee?
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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So would you support a national health care system if it was funded by a 5% federal sales tax and a 8% payroll tax split 80-20 between employer and employee?
Yes, provided that it is impossible to split people out of one group...
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Everyone pays in and everyone is covered. If you want elite coverage, you can pay extra to elite doctors. This is an obvious answer to our healthcare crisis and works in other wealthy nations around the world. It is where we are heading, like it or not. And I don’t know why you would not.
Which doctors are elite and why or how did they get to be assigned as elite?
How would I know if I want or need an elite doctor?

The problem with this, is that there are medical standards of care. So in many if not most cases, the basic treatment of any particular medical/surgical problem is about already laid out, with some personalized adjustments. Along with some possible regional or professional variation of care. Except for very minor medical encounters, the cost of treatment typically far outweighs the cost of simply seeing the doc.

What happens when you have major trauma, and you are in a non-elite plan, and only elite is available?
What happens if you have a cancer, and the only available doc treating your disease is an elite?
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Yes, provided that it is impossible to split people out of one group...
could u elaborate?
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Single payer is great. Never having to think about medical bills, is nice.
There most likely would still be means based premiums, copays and deductibles. Especially the latter to 'worry' people just a bit before seeking HC for marginal problems.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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There most likely would still be means based premiums, copays and deductibles. Especially the latter to 'worry' people just a bit before seeking HC for marginal problems.
Why couldn't it be done the way it is in NZ? -all paid through tax, no bills, copays etc
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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I cant google your opinion on that. I have to ask you. Do you think the tattoo-on-the-forehead system is feasible in order to deny you care in case of emergency and increase your freedom?
And how big should one's forehead be? I've had a dozen different policies and insurance providers over the past 30 years. There's only so much room to cross out the old to make a new one the flavor of the month.

And a question for you. At what point will you stop reaching into my pocket to fund your dreams of being compassionate and generous to others? Is there any stopping point for such a reach as long as it helps you feel better about yourself? You know what is said about OPM, right?
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