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View Poll Results: Will Trump try and pardon Flynn?
Yes 60 31.58%
Maybe 49 25.79%
No 81 42.63%
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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If the saga of Michael Flynn feels like it's been hanging over President Trump's head since inauguration day, that's because it has.
The story of how Trump's first national security adviser came to plead guilty to lying to FBI investigators and cooperate in the special counsel's Russia investigation spans two presidential terms and also touches government officials who were subsequently fired by Trump.






https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56831...el-flynn-story
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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And remember Flynn was mos def around as advisor before-during-after Repub Conventionand likely can speak to this
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/56831...kraine-support
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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Certainly a coup against 2/3 of the American people who don't approve of Trump
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Yep. Like the GOP didn't try to do a deep dive into the lives of Obama and Clinton.
I seem to remember something about Obama's birth certificate...
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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THIS IS WHAT THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION IS REALLY ABOUT. FBI Crimes they dont want you to know about, involved since day 1 in a premeditated coup attempt against the President of the United States,& Financial ties linked to Fusion GPS & illegal wire taps, unmasking, and spying on the American people and the Trump campaign.. Entrapment scheme of all trump campaign members,& Cover up of Russian bribes and kick backs in Uranium 1 crimes, interfering in free elections here in the U.S and cover up of Clinton Email crimes..

TRUMP 2020
Have a blessed day
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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Trump has nothing to be worried about.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1DZ0XN
He didn't "ask"
He is compelling the turnover and supoenae have timeline
If it is late that can be punished
If Deustch Bank wants to fight that shows very dirty laundry being protected
Deustch had already been burned for illegal activities multiple times
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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More from the Dick Nixon files, August 5, 1973:

Important as it is to determine exactly who was guilty of what wrongdoing in the Watergate scandals, Watergate's true significance concerns more than an episode of political espionage and burglary. The deeper issues go to the heart of the American people's relations with their government. The spirit of Watergate has permeated the atmosphere of the White House in which governmental power Is wielded.

The Senate hearings, though still inconclusive on many details, have already demonstrated beyond doubt that the Administration viewed itself as an embattled enclave threatened by sinister adversaries bent on violence and subversion. President Nixon and his top advisers translated every expression of dissent and protest into proof of horrendous conspiracies, supported and financed by foreign enemies. In that distorted light potential hecklers and demonstrators appeared not as nuisances to be held accountable under the laws for any disruption, but as an enemy army to be sought out and destroyed with the full arsenal of counterinsurgency weapons normally reserved for warfare against a foreign enemy. This is not conjecture. It is the picture openly painted by Messrs. Ehrlichman and Haldeman.

The President's palace guard feared every potential Democratic candidate, not as a challenger under the rules of the two party system, but as a usurper of the power that had to belong to Richard Nixon for the nation's salvation. This, too, is not conjecture. John Mitchell testified that he would have gone to virtually any length in keeping the lid on the festering scandals as long as he thought Mr. Nixon's re‐election required it.

Where fear is chronic, such terms as right and wrong, moral and immoral, legal and illegal lose their meaning. Convinced that the Administration and the republic for which it stands were in mortal danger, the President's surrogates felt themselves empowered—indeed, duty bound—to take whatever action they deemed necessary to protect the national security as they saw it. In that climate, breaking into the office of a political enemy's psychiatrist is, as Mr. Ehrlichman emphasized, an act of national defense. Asked whether the President might claim the right to order murder as well as burglary in the interest of national security, Mr. Ehrlichman declined to draw any firm line.

The real constitutional crisis will not be resolved and the nation's future as a free, self‐governing society assured until the American people comprehend and reject the doctrine of an all‐knowing White House, empowered to act in disregard of the Constitution and the laws.

Spirit of Watergate August 5 1973
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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Can you imagine what would've come up from Clinton through Obama if a deep dive from birth .....
did you forget about the birthers?
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Have subscription to NYTimes
Going to have to read all of that link
Thanks RosieSD
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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Are you trying to compare this with Michael Flynn's admission, which is a big nothing (at least as far as it applies to Donald Trump). Good luck with it.

Mueller's investigation is unraveling, with new revelations of anti-Trump bias (text messages, Tweets, etc) and that his team is nearly completely staffed with Clinton and Democrat donors. More is coming out moment by moment of the extreme bias against Trump. The FBI has been shown to be corrupted by James Comey (who is also best friends with Mueller).

Sorry to burst your bubble.
So delusional.
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