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Old 12-04-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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Neither one of those topics seems relevant.

In fact nothing you've said, and nothing the OP has said, seems to have any value thus far.
You’re clearly just in here trolling yourself if we go back and take a quick review of everything you’ve contributed to this thread as well.
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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According to this article China and Russia are winning the race to advanced robotics and AI.

They are setting the table for their futures while we have our heads buried in issues of 150+ years ago.

We are busy dumbing down our population so the lowest denominator doesn't look so bad while they are encouraging their best and brightest to perfect the technology that will be our downfall.

We have a 20T debt and a growing worthless segment of our population with no morals or work ethic.

But we have lots of diversity. Hurray.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...putin-pentagon
yet you have hundreds of posts attacking liberals who are our primary source of tech. we libs are almost the entire bleed edge of AI.

Pullmyfinger has hundreds of extremely negative attacks on liberals from virtually every angle on almost every topic. In fact i don't recall seeing Pullmyfinger posting support for a strong robust education system or any such thing.



BUT THERE IS MORE.

PullMyFinger could not be more wrong. AI is a race and it is a race that we are winning and very likley to finish far ahead of any other nation. I know a number of folks with prominent roles in this sector, the pace is stunning the work even more so. two of the folk i know who are leaders in their field are indian, a few are from the EU, a couple from China a some from the USA. Yes it is like sitting in the UN. Yes accents are at times difficult . But the key takeaway for PullMyFinger part of the reason we are doing so well is the DIVERSITY of backgrounds and cultural difference that makes these folk so deeply valuable.

People of different cultures and backgrounds often view the same problem in completely different ways. This creates an advantage over corps with monocultures. This is one of the reasons CA and WA are the bleeding edge of tech in the USA. We embrace technology we embrace diversity. And i mean real diversity, because real diversity brings those with views you would never even consider.

The AI race is the primary reason why almost every single conservative on this site is 100% wrong on virtually every single aspect of social benefits.

AI has several paths forward, it may well be that true AI does not even matter because "good enough" might well be "good enough" . What i know for certain is that unless we hit some unforeseen massive obstacles we will see AI doing your job "good enough" very soon. AI might be decades away from some jobs but it is 1 year to 10 years away from a lot of jobs. Yep i know that pisses some folk off all the way.

But if we slow down, someone else won't. Thus every company with the means is either working alone or with partners to move forward.

As such we absolutely need UBI, national healthcare and a whole new education system that seeks to help everyone be the best they can be but at a pace that is not gruelling and that disheartens billions of people.

Al is going to bring Manufacturing closer to final consumption, so while more will be made locally, it will not result in new jobs but it may mildly slow the decline for full time employment.

the choice is clear. Do we work to put strong social supports in place or do we go a bifurcated dystopian future. maybe HG Wells really did have a time machine...
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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China just copies and steals. Russia is broke. The Putin oligarchs got all the money.

Creative people will take today's technology and find other ways to use it. The USA still has plenty of smart creative people here and joining us from other places.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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The Chinese and Russians aren't spending the most amount of money educating who will be the least productive citizens. I'm not suggesting special needs students get kicked to the curb but when you are spending $100K on someone who may never hold a job and only $10K on someone with an IQ of 140 there is something wrong with that.
Okay then, but where do we put special needs students? They have to go somewhere. We are going to have them in our society. The way a child is born, not much can be done about that.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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You’re clearly just in here trolling yourself if we go back and take a quick review of everything you’ve contributed to this thread as well.
i've contributed sanity, something its in desperate need of
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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China just copies and steals.
I'm old enough to remember when people said that of Japan. Good times.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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According to this article China and Russia are winning the race to advanced robotics and AI.

They are setting the table for their futures while we have our heads buried in issues of 150+ years ago.

We are busy dumbing down our population so the lowest denominator doesn't look so bad while they are encouraging their best and brightest to perfect the technology that will be our downfall.
That's what republicans want.

First they give the wealthiest of Americans huge tax cuts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/

Then they cut funds for science to offset the cost of the tax cuts.
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/sci...search-funding
Trump's proposed STEM budget cuts a grave mistake (Opinion) - CNN
Trump budget makes heavy cuts to science research | TheHill
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Old 12-04-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
According to this article China and Russia are winning the race to advanced robotics and AI.

They are setting the table for their futures while we have our heads buried in issues of 150+ years ago.

We are busy dumbing down our population so the lowest denominator doesn't look so bad while they are encouraging their best and brightest to perfect the technology that will be our downfall.

We have a 20T debt and a growing worthless segment of our population with no morals or work ethic.

But we have lots of diversity. Hurray.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...putin-pentagon
The Daily Star is not a good source of information on Grand Strategy or the future of technology. The most they manage in this article is a couple of quotes from Eric Schmidt about how great it would be if we opened up immigration from Iran and other countries with strong STEM education (while I agree with him on that subject, it has nothing to do with the question of weaponizing advanced robotics and AI in different countries for the next couple of decades).
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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That’s true of almost nothing then if you’re drilling down to where the raw materials come from.
It's true when the product has the "Made in the USA" label without qualification like Red Wing has.

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https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/busi...e-usa-standard

What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?

For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.
What does "all or virtually all" mean?

"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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We are busy dumbing down our population so the lowest denominator doesn't look so bad while they are encouraging their best and brightest to perfect the technology that will be our downfall.

But we have lots of diversity. Hurray.
And perhaps the biggest threat to our technological advancement is the republicans immigration policy. Policies like Muslim bans, boarder walls, anti- DACA policies, ex.ex.

Immigrants start 24% of America's new high tech companies, immigrants file over 60% of Americas high tech patents, and immigrants founded 20% of America's Inc. 500 companies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a5dc238f4c65

"44% of U.S. engineering and technology startup companies based in Silicon Valley were founded by immigrants."
"More than 40% of the international patent applications filed by the U.S. government had foreign-national authors."
Why Trump

"Immigrants Are Behind More Than Three-Quarters of Patents From The Top Ten Patent-Producing American Universities."
Press Release: New Study Reveals Immigrants Are Behind More Than Three-Quarters of Patents From Top Ten Patent-Producing American Universities - New American Economy

And "35%-40% of new firms have at least one immigrant entrepreneur connected to the firm’s creation."
https://hbr.org/2016/10/immigrants-p...trepreneurship


In the past America had a worldwide image of a country with all peoples living together. With Americans, Europeans, Asians, Arabs, Africans, South Americans, Indians, and Jews all together in one country chasing the American dream. But today in America we have Muslim bans, South American border walls and ICE Asian roundups.

And for generations when some kid in a undeveloped country thought of a new invention it was America where they went to file their patent, create their invention and start their business. But now when these foreign kids dream of new inventions it will not be America where they go (it will be a more welcoming country like Europe or Canada.)

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