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Not what I said. If you cant separate your online life with reality (and to the point you are going to kill yourself), it might be a good idea to disconnect from social media.
Anyway, Im sure and the other posters know what I meant, you just want to pretend to be offended as a measure of how much you care. Pathetic narcissism.
Not what I said. If you cant separate your online life with reality (and to the point you are going to kill yourself), it might be a good idea to disconnect from social media.
Anyway, Im sure and the other posters know what I meant, you just want to pretend to be offended as a measure of how much you care. Pathetic narcissism.
Quite honestly, I really and truly thought your statement was ill advised.
It has nothing to do with trying to make myself look good. No one here knows who I am. And I certainly don't care what a bunch of other anonymous people think of me.
I felt it ill advised for a number of reasons:
1. If it were any other venue, most people wouldn't say, "Stop doing/using X." Yet its okay to say it about social media, which is just an extension of our real lives.
2. It takes the blame away from the psychopaths who made this girl's life so hellish, she felt her only escape was death. Think about that for a moment. You have a group of kids who are so focused on abusing a classmate, that they spend hours per day/week stalking her, harassing her, belittling her. Yet you blame the victim for using social media. Misplaced priorities on your part perhaps?
3. Your statement goes against a fundamental ideal in society: Just because you think it, doesn't mean you say it. Even though I'm anonymous on this board, I do try to conduct myself in a manner which mirrors how I would speak to you in real life. I don't know anyone, no matter how blunt or callous, who would what you said in real life about the suicide of a young person.
Not what I said. If you cant separate your online life with reality (and to the point you are going to kill yourself), it might be a good idea to disconnect from social media.
Anyway, Im sure and the other posters know what I meant, you just want to pretend to be offended as a measure of how much you care. Pathetic narcissism.
Cyber bullying is not just from people you don't interact with, but also with people you know and go to school with. That is the problem in many cases with cyber bullying, there isn't a safe place to avoid it. Home, scout, clubs were safe places. Putting the phone or internet away just delays the inevitable. So no, I didn't see it your way, because your way was just plain missinformed.
maybe-you don't know her, or the situation fully, so no you can't say that
Have you considered attending support groups for grieving survivors of loved ones suicides, and telling them if your loved one had only done this one thing, they would be alive?
I bet your answer for starving people worldwide is to tell them to "eat something"
No one *needs* social media.
If someone was punching your kid in the face would you encourage them to keep playing together? No. You would put a stop to it.
If your kid is getting tormented by social media? TURN IT OFF.
But saying, don't go to social media is wrong? Nope. People don't want to let go of the power it has over them. It's kind of sick. So the pushback. No keep reading the horrible things they are saying. WHY?
Quite honestly, I really and truly thought your statement was ill advised.
It has nothing to do with trying to make myself look good. No one here knows who I am. And I certainly don't care what a bunch of other anonymous people think of me.
I felt it ill advised for a number of reasons:
1. If it were any other venue, most people wouldn't say, "Stop doing/using X." Yet its okay to say it about social media, which is just an extension of our real lives.
2. It takes the blame away from the psychopaths who made this girl's life so hellish, she felt her only escape was death. Think about that for a moment. You have a group of kids who are so focused on abusing a classmate, that they spend hours per day/week stalking her, harassing her, belittling her. Yet you blame the victim for using social media. Misplaced priorities on your part perhaps?
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1. If social media is an extension of your "real life" I don't know what to say. Except that it;s not. If you were cut off RIGHT NOW, nothing would change, except you'd have a heck of a lot more free time and wold have to get an actual hobby. No one needs social media. I know plenty of people without FB or twitter or the other nonsense. They are just fine.
If something is harming you? You stay away. That's survival 101.
2. Absolutely not. No one is saying that behaving like an a--hole is OK.
But WHY continue to look at it? Do you just let someone keep punching you in the face? Or do you end the situation that's causing you harm?
This is becoming a regular occurrence. Yes, bullies have always existed, but it's worse these days with social media and the fact that bullying is still allowed to exist.
Resurrecting a thread that probably should've stayed dead, and I apologize for this long response, but I think it's important enough to share.
I was bullied to some extent, as I'm sure many others were, all through public education and even outside of school. I remember when my "friend" - the only kid that I seemed to get along with on my bus, one day decided to punch me all the way home until I punched him back. Some people just like to see how far they can go. It sucks. But, it doesn't get much better once you leave school.
Obviously I'm not talking about extreme cases. If a child is prone towards depression or doesn't have a good home life, or is singled out - there are cases where the child(ren) need protected.
I think there are several solutions to these problems. I got through it, not because of any friends (because I don't think I had a trusted friend until, possibly, after college - maybe 1 in high school) but because I had a loving family that encouraged me in life and my parents were living testimonies of Christ's love and sacrifice.
Regarding DeForrest's comment on "Shut the computer off" - in the struggle with pornography, procrastination, spending, or any other habitual struggle that a person might have - the go-to is to remove or deter yourself away from those things. Shutting the computer down or getting rid of the computer altogether would be a good option at that point. If that's not an option, then learn to rise above it (though this would be the most difficult way).
I do wonder, though, are kids THAT great at hiding their feelings from those that love them? My parents would ask us how school was, how we were doing, what we were doing, why we did that, etc. They weren't helicopter parents, but they were involved. I, myself, not having kids, can tell a difference in my wife and my closest friends and even kids that I see on a regular enough basis to know when they are happy, sad, angry, etc. If I'm concerned and feel that they may not have shared, I pry until I know they'll be alright.
Anyhow - trying to answer "how would you stop bullying?" - You can't. Life is full of bullying. Bullying will always happen. Whole countries bully other countries. Gov'ts bully other Gov'ts or their own citizens. People are bullied in the workplace. By their neighbors, families, "friends", etc. Honestly, I think this question has left many unable to cope with bullying and therefore resulted in much more violent/deadly results.
The question that should be presented is "How will we teach people to react to bullying?" Personally, teach individuals the value of life, value of love, that there is evil in the world, faith to me was important, not be afraid to seek council/help, and trust. And, how to stand up for themselves and each other. I'm not saying it's right, but another couple bullies stopped because I stood up for myself and I didn't back down. Scared me at the time, but I got a little more respect for myself and by others because of it.
The whole "step away from your computer" in a time where kids are attending school.....via computer. I guess you could say that they should stay away from sites where they may encounter their tormentors, but I imagine a kid would find it hard to resist looking, if only in the hope that they may find nothing or maybe something opposite of what they are getting.
This saddens me, I remember getting bullied, I remember crying till I almost throw up and my parents trying to comfort me, not knowing what to do. My mom calling the teacher. What saved me was my home was a safe place and I hoped my future would be better.. to say just turn off the computer isn’t really a cure all, it’s more then just a few classmates harassing you, but a larger group. I had a refuge at home, where I had loving parents that helped me through, just by loving me and a attitude that someday it would be better,but social media is now the new tool for bullies that brings it further then school.
I remember how much it hurt and taught my kids to be kind. This poor young lady was hurting and felt alone and hopeless. Social media I believe is more of a curse then a blessing.
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