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Old 12-07-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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What exactly is wrong with a sovereign nation picking its capital?
Funny. Maybe Mexico should be able to decide to make San Diego it's new capital. Mexico is also a sovereign nation after all and perhaps with more rightful claim to San Diego than Israel has rightful claim of Jerusalem...

 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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What exactly is wrong with a sovereign nation picking its capital?
It should never have been their nation to begin with. The UN screwed the pooch on that one BIG TIME.

Its like if you have refugees come here and then the UN decides the refugees need their own country for *whatever reason* and give them Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire. Do you think Americans would stand for it? Should stand for it?

Its not right.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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And, to my knowledge, every president has declined to do so. Because its the wrong thing to do.
Not right, or wrong, but completely pointless. Why waste hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on symbolism? We are hiking taxes on middle class, and then we have to watch Trump blow the money on building super-max style embassies in countries where we already have a fine embassy,
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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It's a tinder box because Arabs and Muslims and Persians hate Jews more than they love life itself.
It's not that they hate Jews any more than any other people. They are People of the Book.

The modern state of Israel has behaved like a rogue nation. It has engaged in ethnic cleansing (Israel sees that it needs to, for practical reasons) and some of the ultra-orthodox have made claims to territories far beyond the west bank, some want to restore what they consider David's kingdom all the way to the Euphrates. This rhetoric is not lost on the people of the middle east.

The UN had declared Jerusalem an open city from the beginning, and up until now we have honored that. It forms part of the basis for peace negotiations. Take that off the table and the peace efforts break down.

In truth, many in the ultra-orthodox community in Israel want the peace negotiations to come to an end, because it hampers or interferes with their expansionist efforts.

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Old 12-07-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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In what year was Islam founded?

In the what year were Jews first living in Jerusalem?

You need some serious history lessons.
I'm not talking about Biblical history my friend. I'm talking about modern history.

I hope this helps: https://www.vox.com/cards/israel-pal...1948-partition
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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In what year was Islam founded?

In the what year were Jews first living in Jerusalem?

You need some serious history lessons.
Are you making a case that we should reconsider all nation borders based on how the world looked at the time Islam was founded and/or back in the days of Jesus?

Seems more than just a little whacky to me...
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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The US and just about every nation in the world have been trying to appease the Palestinians for decades and work towards a two state solution. Palestinians responded by electing terror organizations and firing rockets into Israel. It’s time for a new plan.
Would you agree to a two state solution if the UN did to America what it did to Palestine?
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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I wish liberals would do some research before posting stupid chit like this. Congress votes to recognize Jerusalem in 1995. Trump is just the first president to have a set of balls to do
It. Liberals spend to much time trying to appease others at the expense of this
Country.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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No, because it is a law enacted in 1995 and the US legislators say so along with every president running for election since then.


[SIZE=4][SIZE=4]JERUSALEM EMBASSY ACT OF 1995
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[SIZE=3][SIZE=3]109 STAT. 398 PUBLIC LAW 104–45—NOV. 8, 1995




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Old 12-07-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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Funny. Maybe Mexico should be able to decide to make San Diego it's new capital. Mexico is also a sovereign nation after all and perhaps with more rightful claim to San Diego than Israel has rightful claim of Jerusalem...
If San Diego were within Mexico’s borders, they sure would.


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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
It should never have been their nation to begin with. The UN screwed the pooch on that one BIG TIME.

Its like if you have refugees come here and then the UN decides the refugees need their own country for *whatever reason* and give them Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire. Do you think Americans would stand for it? Should stand for it?

Its not right.
It is their nation.

Their nation was smaller until their neighbors decided to destroy Israel. At that point, Israel increased their borders making it theirs.

Had the neighbors not decided Israel should b destroyed, Israel would be contained within the borders drawn.
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