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"According to a police report, Daniel Shaver, a pest-control worker and resident of Granbury, Texas, had been staying at a Mesa La Quinta Inn on business. He invited two acquaintances to his room for drinks. There he showed them a scoped air rifle he was using to exterminate birds inside grocery stores. At one point the gun was pointed outside his hotel window, prompting a witness to notify the front desk; the police were immediately called."
Complete overreaction to have that kind of police reaction to that call.
A witness outside the hotel called and reported a man was pointing a firearm out a hotel window. After the Las Vegas tragedy. The police consider him armed and dangerous, not having had a chance to identify the firearm for themselves. He makes a motion to reach for something at/around his waistband. The cop has no choice but to assume he's reaching for a gun, having already been reported as armed and pointing a firearm out the hotel window.
Not quite as cut and dried as everyone had assumed from the brief clip shown on the news.
the guy was reaching for something in his waist band, cops aren't going to wait to see if it's a gun, then it's too late. Unfortunate, but that's what happens when you don't follow police commands.
the guy was reaching for something in his waist band, cops aren't going to wait to see if it's a gun, then it's too late. Unfortunate, but that's what happens when you don't follow police commands.
It's unfortunate that these two cowards had plenty of opportunities to cuff this guys with out shooting him. It's unfortunate that they gave him ridiculous commands and told him if you make a mistake you will die. It's unfortunate that this maniac thought somebody crying who was obviously terrified and begging not to be shot would be stupid enough to pull out a gun.
It's unfortunate that people come up with ridiculous excuses for the police no matter how blatant it it that they're wrong.
It's unfortunate that these two cowards had plenty of opportunities to cuff this guys with out shooting him. It's unfortunate that they gave him ridiculous commands and told him if you make a mistake you will die. It's unfortunate that this maniac thought somebody crying who was obviously terrified and begging not to be shot would be stupid enough to pull out a gun.
It's unfortunate that people come up with ridiculous excuses for the police no matter how blatant it it that they're wrong.
It's unfortunate that he pointed a scoped firearm out a hotel window and someone saw and reported it. The rest follows from that. When any suspect who has been reported as being armed makes a movement that appears to be reaching for a weapon, this is the by the book response. Likely why a verdict of not guilty was returned.
If you don't see something very wrong with this shooting you are sick. He was one person, completely vulnerable, and they played a deadly game of simon says with him and killed him. The cop was obviously itching to kill someone. The scooped rifle out window thing has very little to do with it. The victim obviously didn't have a scoped rifle on him when he was crawling on the g-**** floor.
It's unfortunate that he pointed a scoped firearm out a hotel window and someone saw and reported it. The rest follows from that. When any suspect who has been reported as being armed makes a movement that appears to be reaching for a weapon, this is the by the book response. Likely why a verdict of not guilty was returned.
Very unfortunate indeed for that young man. I do understand your approach on the matter to be objectionable and fact driven, but like others have said, some will find ANYTHING to give a cop a pass. I'm not anti-cop, but there are enough G.I. Joe wannabes out there to make me extremely wary. I've run into to these tough guys everywhere. Even off duty these guys have a huge chip on their shoulder right out of bed.
So let's say Person A, does not like Person B. Person A calls the Call of Duty (police) hotline and reports they saw Person B holding what looks like, may or not be a gun. For fun let's say Person B was holding a pneumatic tool or even nothing at all. Whatever the case person A has reported someone they deem dangerous with a weapon.
Now the officer arrives expecting to confront Person B who has been reported as being armed as you say. Unfortunately for Person B, the cop responding turns out to be tactical geared-up, badass tatoo, "you're f*cked" rifle guy. Person B, in my fictional story here is caught off guard having actually done nothing wrong. Only guilty of having person A call authorities and fabricating a threat. Person B is shook as supercop shouts commands loudly and threatens immediate violence at any mistake. All the while Person B is VISIBLY complying with every command in a well lit hallway. Supercop spends the next minute or two continuously yelling various commands and reiterating any mistake will get you shot.
At this point person B is overcome with fear. Possibly even having their family flash by in their head as they realize the guy holding the rifle just might not have all his marbles (police uniform does not equate to inherently ethical to me, as it does to some). Person B is given every, and I mean EVERY opportunity to make a mistake. Person B makes a muscle memory reaction in their current distressed emotional state. Pulling up pants, in the case Person B is a woman, maybe trying to fix bra strap back upon her shoulder. Or maybe Person B in this case is a person who has bad knees/arthritis and lurches to catch themselves upon sharp pain from moving on their knees.
My point is the way this pig handled this, a mistake is almost surely to be made. The majority of people who would find themselves in this situation unlucky enough to be Person B would end up dead here. No doubt about it. Behavior like this officer showed makes it more dangerous for civilians AND law enforcement everywhere if it is defended as standard practice. If this is "by the book," than police officers need to fix the books.
Last edited by Jza; 12-09-2017 at 07:16 AM..
Reason: terrible speller!
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