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Old 01-07-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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Viability:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...mature-babies/

Born before 23 weeks and is now pretty much normal at 3 years old.

Viable in my eyes.

 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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WebMd, a highly recognized and esteemed source of medical information, considers it a baby from conception.

"Month One of Pregnancy

The amniotic sac is a water-tight sac that forms around the fertilized egg. It helps cushion the growing embryo throughout pregnancy.
The placenta also develops at this point in the first trimester. The placenta is a round, flat organ that transfers nutrients from the mother to the baby, and transfers waste from the baby.
A primitive face takes form with large dark circles for eyes. The mouth, lower jaw, and throat are developing. Blood cells are taking shape, and circulation will begin.
By the end of the first month of pregnancy, your baby is around 6-7mm (1/4 inch) long - about the size of a grain of rice!"


WebMD Medical Reference Reviewed by Traci C. Johnson, MD on September 12, 2016

https://www.webmd.com/baby/1to3-months
Web md highly esteemed? More like cliff notes for folks too lazy to go to a doctor or check other sources
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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Viability:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...mature-babies/

Born before 23 weeks and is now pretty much normal at 3 years old.

Viable in my eyes.
10 to 35 percent survival rate.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
WebMd, a highly recognized and esteemed source of medical information, considers it a baby from conception.

"Month One of Pregnancy

The amniotic sac is a water-tight sac that forms around the fertilized egg. It helps cushion the growing embryo throughout pregnancy.
The placenta also develops at this point in the first trimester. The placenta is a round, flat organ that transfers nutrients from the mother to the baby, and transfers waste from the baby.
A primitive face takes form with large dark circles for eyes. The mouth, lower jaw, and throat are developing. Blood cells are taking shape, and circulation will begin.
By the end of the first month of pregnancy, your baby is around 6-7mm (1/4 inch) long - about the size of a grain of rice!"


WebMD Medical Reference Reviewed by Traci C. Johnson, MD on September 12, 2016

https://www.webmd.com/baby/1to3-months



Your characterization is a misguided as the rest of your posts here. WebMD is not a highly respected and esteemed source of medical knowledge, although it's better than some websites. It's not something a medical professional uses as a source of information. Plus the target audience for that consumer-oriented (not medical) article are women who have desired and healthy pregnancies. That doesn't mean it's a scientific fact or that it's proof that your opinion is anything more than your opinion.

You are free to believe whatever you personally want to believe and act accordingly. You are not free to impose that belief on others and demand that they act according to your beliefs instead of their own.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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I'm not sure why you and others here are anti-science, but biological life requires homeostasis.
Biology, embryology, genetics inform that life begins at conception. Whether a nation or government chooses to call that life a 'person' or give it rights are societal, legal, and political issues.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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10 to 35 percent survival rate.
Is a stage four pancreatic cancer patient with a survival rate of 1% still a human that has a right to life?
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Is a stage four pancreatic cancer patient with a survival rate of 1% still a human that has a right to life?
False equivalencies remain false no matter how many times they get repeated.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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Is a stage four pancreatic cancer patient with a survival rate of 1% still a human that has a right to life?
Two different scenarios and not comparable.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There are plenty of women who think that prostitution should be legal, you know that right?
Here are some of the arguments why - an article that happens to have been written by a woman

Why America Should Legalize Prostitution - Business Insider

But that's not really on topic for this discussion other than the very general theme of women having control over their own bodies. But this thread isn't about the government regulating the right to abortion, it's about men thinking their opinions should be controlling over what women do.
And they shouldn't be allowed to control what women can do with their bodies.But yet, the do.

I too am a woman. I think it's BS that a man can jog down the street without a shirt on, but if I do it, I will be arrested and thrown in jail for indecent exposure. So much for laws being equal.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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False equivalencies remain false no matter how many times they get repeated.
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Two different scenarios and not comparable.
So, now you think survival rate is irrelevant. Lol, yeah, it mattered when you threw it out there.
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