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Old 12-13-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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So why vote for puppets of Wall Street? Trump has packed his administration with Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street big shots. Does Goldman care about Joe Sixpack? Remember, if you dont vote for Goldman Sachs, you will be labeled a communist. Many people are afraid of not voting for Goldman.
The biggest con of 2016 was that Trump was "for the little guy". He spouted a lot of nonsense in 2016, but his actions in 2017 clearly show where he stands. He IS for the establishment, especially the elite 1% establishment.

And his supporters are eating it up.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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We wouldn't need to worry about a wall if those who hired illegals and profited from their cheap labor were given jail time for their efforts because wall or not, the cartels will not be stopped that easily.

If it can be proven that the employers "knowingly" hired illegal aliens they are prosecuted. There have been a few examples of it lately. If the Democrats would stop bucking e-verify that would help a lot also. Not all illegals are coming here for work either, thus the wall.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Are you saying that Trump CAN build that wall without Congressional approval and funding? The GOP does not have a supermajority... do you need a lesson in civics and economics?

Not only that but there are many sell outs within the GOP that don't want the wall. Liberals don't want the wall so they're going to try and put the blame all on Trump if it doesn't get done and even before congress even votes on it.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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That damn wall better never get built as it would be a huge waste of $$$....$$$ that we don't have and will have even less of after this huge tax cut for the rich billionaire class and corps...
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The big beautiful wall. What happened?
Santa is bringing it along with the repeal of obamacare.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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That damn wall better never get built as it would be a huge waste of $$$....$$$ that we don't have and will have even less of after this huge tax cut for the rich billionaire class and corps...

How is it a waste when illegal aliens cost us over $100 billion a year vs a $25 billion wall? Where the type of wall proposed has already been erected in shorter sections of the border they have been very effective.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Never...
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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Don't the republicans have a majority in both houses and the presidency? Surely they have enough votes to pass the bill. Stop making excuses for the GOP and the useless excuse for the toxic president you voted for.
YEP all 3 branches and here we are almost a full year gone by and not one single major legislative bill passed.

TRUMP goes down in US history as the first and to date only POTUS who failed to pass his first major bill.

nixon, reagan , clinton, bush ,bush, carter, ford, obama..... all did it... but not Trump.
every single other POTUS did it first time. Trump failed. It may well be a record that stands for a hundred years....
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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How is it a waste when illegal aliens cost us over $100 billion a year vs a $25 billion wall? Where the type of wall proposed has already been erected in shorter sections of the border they have been very effective.
100 billion is bs, but unless you expect it to be maintenance free, and 100% effective your math is off.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Never...
A lot of it is already up, you know that right?
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