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Old 03-20-2008, 11:54 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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this is why weapon ownership should continue to be a right,because there are bad people out there and cops can't always protect you.

Calif. woman slain on the phone with 911 - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Can't wait for the anti-gunners to chime in on this one...

...or maybe they'll ignore it, like they usually do when something doesn't fit their Shangri-la view of how the world should work...

I'm sure that if they had only passed more gun control laws yesterday, this wouldn't have happened. No doubt the murderer would have turned in his gun and brought her a bouquet of roses, instead...
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:18 PM
 
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this is why weapon ownership should continue to be a right,because there are bad people out there and cops can't always protect you.

Calif. woman slain on the phone with 911 - Yahoo! News (broken link)
Not only can they not always protect.. Legally, cops can stand there and allow the attack to happen without facing legal repercussions. A cops legal duty is to arrest an individual after the attack, not to stop attacks from taking place.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Oz
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I used to be a 911 operator/police dispatcher. People get hurt by a lot of things, not just guns.

Try talking to a 7 yr old boy on the phone, who is wondering what to feed his infant brother, because his mother told him it was his responsibility to take care of the baby, and there's no food left for the baby in the house, and the baby is crying because he's hungry and his momma has been in bed and hasn't moved for two days and he can't wake her up and why is her face turning all black? (Mom overdosed and died two days before)

Try taking a call from the young woman whose father locked himself in the bathroom, and has cut his wrists open with a knife, so deeply that the blood is flowing out from under the locked door.

Or from the woman who is being held hostage by a vicious boyfriend in her own car at knife-point, who is screaming that he is going to cut her throat and then crash the vehicle.

Guns are not the cause of violence, PEOPLE are.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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There is nothing in the story to indicate that in fact the woman did not have a firearm available to defend herself. Sadly, the very same thing would happen to my wife because she just doesn't have it within her to pull the trigger even to save herself. I know she won't even though we have firearms placed safely and discreetly throughout the house and have talked about various scenarios and what to do when they come about, for years.

Many people have had it beat into their heads for so so long that you should not rise up and defend yourself, leave your personal protection to the "authorities" and you will be taken care of Your personal security is up to you and you alone. I really wish I would have been able to read this story the other way around.....a woman saved her life and sent some seriously worthless human debris to a permanent dirtnap.

Prayers to the family and hope they grab those involved quickly.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I really wish I would have been able to read this story the other way around.....a woman saved her life and sent some seriously worthless human debris to a permanent dirtnap.
If it had turned out that way, you wouldn't have heard about it at all - that scenario doesn't fit the MSM's anti-gun agenda.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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That is why if anyone ever breaks into my house, I will shoot first and ask questions second. Forget about ADT, my home is secured by Smith & Wesson. Here burglar burglar...
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:51 PM
 
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Cop on the phone is never as good as a gun in your hand.
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:57 PM
 
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That is why if anyone ever breaks into my house, I will shoot first and ask questions second. Forget about ADT, my home is secured by Smith & Wesson. Here burglar burglar...
True,though awareness if you live with people should be considered also.There was a incident where a daughter told dad she was spending the night at a friends,she came home early in the middle of the night,made noise,her father thinking she wasn't there thought it must be a intruder and he shot and killed her.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I don't know if it would have made a difference or not, but why did this woman choose to call her husband BEFORE calling 911? If she was on the phone with her husband for even a minute, that is a minute earlier that the police could have responded with sirens blaring, and it might have "spooked" the burglar BEFORE she was gunned down. I also noticed that this crime occurred in an affluent suburb; crime happens everywhere.
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