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huh? I don't understand the point you are making sorry.
I like to dress sexy and nice, yes, I do. I like to dress nice for myself and the man I love, if this is what you are asking.
I am not threatened by people (women) who dress sexy. Do I think men cannot control their behavior? huh? where does that come from? All I am saying is that attraction has to start somewhere, it usually starts with physical attraction. If women want to dress to impress or dress to attract, go for it.
Question was do you think that men can see a woman dressed provocatively and control their sexual desires?
Also, have you ever been hit on/flirted with by a man without dressing provocatively or for their specific attraction?
I don't care if women dress to attract men, but you agreed with the bold below:
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If women truly want to be looked at in a neutral manner then I suggest they start wearing Burqa's, dress like a nun, stop shaving their bodies, lose the warpaint.
Do you honestly feel that men cannot view women as "neutral" (basically as a person and not in a sexual way) unless she is dressed in a burqa and covered in hair? Also, that men don't flirt with/hit on women who have hair, don't wear makeup, and wear baggy clothes (women like me lol - and I have been constantly hit on since I was 10 years old by men)
I just thought it odd that you agreed with the bold and wanted to get your take on the questions above.
If you are worried you might look at yourself closely. As I said -- all the great guys I know have no issue with men being called out for being pigs. They are secure in their ability to be able to conduct themselves appropriately without having to make up random rules of how to interact with women. They know how to be decent human beings.
I guess either you do or you don't know how to behave.....
How one acts, is their play to the end game.... Sex.
The differences can be unlimited, to get there. That does not change the goal.
If women woke up, they could and some do, use a mans traits and sex drive to their advantage.
The tease and the gold digger come to mind.
Also, have you ever been hit on/flirted with by a man without dressing provocatively or for their specific attraction?
Yes. all the time, but dressing nicely /sexy =/= dress provocatively . Although different people have different ideas/definition of the term "provocatively"
I am a beach girl and always wear bikini on the beach. Some people call that slutty. So I don't know.
All I am saying is that if a woman wants to dress to attract or dress to impress, go for it. I am not threatened by sexy, slutty (for lack of a better word), or educated, successful women. That is all I am saying.
In another word, I don't judge.
Men will always view women as sexual being, but a sexual being is not the only role women play in the men's life. Being viewed as a sexual being is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't know why so many people think it is. we all have animal instinct.
Instinct is an inherent behavior; a fixed action pattern that is unlearned. Animals are born with certain instincts which are common to all those in their breed. Humans are no different.
Will note that women in ancient times didn't have access to razors or makeup or form fitting clothes but somehow there was still sexual desire between the sexes.
What women wear IMO have little to do with physical attraction between genders for heterosexual persons.
Honestly, I don't think I would ever have been hit on/flirted with if that was the case - that women without makeup, who have body hair, and who don't dress provocatively, don't get male attention. That concept is just beyond odd to me.
I really do consider myself a "plain jane" but I'm not ugly. I look like a decent woman and most men who like women can look at me and have a sexual attraction. My own husband, when we met, he admits he loved my butt and boobs. I had on jeans a baggy t-shirt when we met. He admitted he wanted to see what was under my clothes. Men have imaginations. They don't need to see everything to have an attraction. Honestly I think I get more attention than my younger sister who dresses VERY provocatively to where I've told her that she needs to tone it down (skin tight dresses that barely cover her butt for instance).
I personally don't know any men who cannot control themselves.
I don't either, which is why I thought you agreeing with that was odd. IMO all men can control themselves. And those who say they can't just don't want to.
I don't either, which is why I thought you agreeing with that was odd. IMO all men can control themselves. And those who say they can't just don't want to.
Just like my friends who have read this board observed; when people spent hours posting so vociferously to defend a child molester you can't help but wonder if they have child porn on their own computer. Myself and many posters here said it too.
In this case, posters who are constantly starting threads and posting to slam women and even saying or implying they "have no worth".....you have to wonder if they are posting from a prison cell or are on home confinement for some crime. People who commit crimes against society frequently dismiss their victims as being subhuman or having no worth.
One does not have to wonder that, at all.
I'd say its much more likely that they are just internet blowhards looking for negative attention than they are pedophiles or criminals.
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Label women all you want when your about to die alone maybe then it will hit you. Just because you THINK that women are only good for sex doesn't make your opinion right. Sexist? You bet!
What truth? That's not truth only your opinion which is demeaning but carry on with your sad self.
You're falling into the same trap that others are
BB has every right to value things how he wants.
If he, for hypothetical example, values tin foil at $100 per square inch, and wants to pay that, he's allowed and will be subject to any consequences.
If he values women only for sex, he's allowed and will be subject to any consequences.
The problem is any statements that how he values something is their actual value.
Yes. all the time, but dressing nicely /sexy =/= dress provocatively . Although different people have different ideas/definition of the term "provocatively"
I am a beach girl and always wear bikini on the beach. Some people call that slutty. So I don't know.
All I am saying is that if a woman wants to dress to attract or dress to impress, go for it. I am not threatened by sexy, slutty (for lack of a better word), or educated, successful women. That is all I am saying.
In another word, I don't judge.
Men will always view women as sexual being, but a sexual being is not the only role women play in the men's life. Being viewed as a sexual being is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't know why so many people think it is. we all have animal instinct.
Instinct is an inherent behavior; a fixed action pattern that is unlearned. Animals are born with certain instincts which are common to all those in their breed. Humans are no different.
I agree with you in regards to different people have differen ideas of what provocative is.
IMO a bikini is provocative. I've never worn one personally and won't let my daughter (she can when she is older if she wants but I feel that they sexualize girls). But I know that other people don't view them that way.
Men IMO will view women in general as "provocative" because hetero men are just naturally attracted to women. So what a woman has on doesn't make any difference IMO.
Now how a woman behaves around a man, that is the difference. But the idea that women have to cover themselves completely to be seen as "neutral" for men (especially in the workplace) is a ridiculous idea.
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